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Falkor
cats do get 2ap per strength but agility gives crit, dodge, armor AND one ap...so it is superior to stack agi and just take strength on gear when it's there. and this is changing in cata so (afaik) we will no longer benefit from strength in cat form, but get 2ap from agi, and only benefit from strength in bear
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Post by
DrDrako
That's an excellent point. you should go to the official forums and tell blizzard to put strength on all our gear. mhmm. you do that.
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Falkor
Can you read? I was asking about AP versus strength, not agi vs strength
yes i can read. it helps when the question makes sense, which your original question lacked. "But I only recently realized str gives 2 AP per point for druids. So
shouldn't the best gear be have str
instead of AP then?". You can see how one might be confused after a quick once over.
Even though you think it doesnt, basically it does come down to str vs agi. if they took the ap and halved it to get the strength, i would still rather take that amount and turn it into agility for the crit, dodge and armor on top of the ap. additionally agility works with nurturing instinct, which im assuming you have for pvp.
(assuming 1 strength = 1 agi for blizzard itemization points...which it does afaik)
example: if you wanted strength instead of ap, and the piece in question has 200 ap, you'd have 100 strength. add in buffs and talents and you'd end up with a bit more than 200 ap, but not all that much more. this strength equals double the ap, which is good, but you get no crit, dodge, armor, or other benefits from it. now if they offered 100 agi instead of 100 strength or 200 ap....you should prefer the 100 agi.
does it make more sense now? tl;dr: no strength might be better than raw ap with talents and buffs, but agility trumps strength. so just take the pure ap and socket agi.
Post by
LookOut
do also note that agi pieces contain extra AP (green stats), while strength items do not. So you basically get an equal amount of AP, but crit on top of that from the agi.
Bottom line: gogo agi (and arpen)
until you hit the crit cap (74% was it?)
Asking a question like that, I don't think you're anywhere near it.
Edit: just noticed it's for pvp. So nvm that crit cap, just go get agi gear and gem it with arpen.
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LookOut
ArP is weaker in PvP than PvE, I think it's only gemmed in burst comps nowadays. Most druids gem agility for stronger bleeds and more cyclones/finishers.
Apologies, I thought I read a while back that arpen was the way to go for pvp (I think it was Lightrain's guide). My only pvp experience is in pve spec (nurturing instinct included though) and pve gear :p in 3v3 with a disc priest and hunter fyi.
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pelf
That ring was so awesome. I used it literally forever.
Post by
skribs
Zealot, there isn't any leather gear with strength, because they did not want to differentiate gear between feral druids and rogues. Rogues only get 1 AP per point of strength, while druids get 2, so if you get strength then you're looking at a very bad rogue item.
If you check this out
, you'll see 131 str + 19 Stam vs. 112 Agi + 181 AP (ignore the hit and crit difference, I'm just trying to compare the str and agi+AP stats, they have 82 of their respective green stat). You're looking at 262 AP on the strength vs. 293 on the AP (modifiers for str and agi, crit from agi both aside), so I'd say the agi gear is better even for a druid.
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Post by
ignis86
never gem to get ap, (so skip ap and str) you will get more than enough from agi/general gear/Feral Attack Power from weapons.
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