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Post by
ironmonkee1
I am currently running into a problem with my DPS and need some input as to what I am doing wrong.
Here
is my current Armory listing.
Currently, I am performing less than desirably compared to other paladins I am seeing in Heroics and ICC. According to RAWR, with raid buffs, I should be pulling about 7.6K DPS in my current gear. However, in Heroics and ICC-10, I am doing about 5.5K on average (and sometimes less than that on fights that I have to be mobile in.) Yet, I hear about paladins doing 12K on Saurfang and am wondering what the heck I am doing wrong? My rotation is set up on a macro like this:
/startattack
/castsequence reset=4 Crusader Strke, Divine Storm, Judgement of Wisdom
I constantly spam this while manually running my Consecration and casting Exorcism when Art of War procs. On trash I always use Seal of Wisdom to keep my mana from going empty and on bosses I use Seal of Vengeance. I also blow Avenging Wrath on bosses as soon as it comes available along with my Mark of Supremacy (both are on a macro as well). Am I currently hamstrug because of my gear, am I not doing something right on my rotations, or is it both? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.
Post by
Dunsinane
You're doing a lot wrong. That macro is terrible, for starters.
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t68951-retribution_updated_3_3_a/
Go. Read. Learn.
I'm sure the local Rets can go into far more detail on your gear, but...
You're more than 100 hit rating above cap and you are using a Mark of Supremacy
You put a Nightmare tear into your belt buckle as opposed to somewhere it can be used to acquire a socket bonus
You're socketing Str/Sta and Expertise gems
You're using the wrong meta gem - Relentless is what you should be using
That cloak... gyaaaaah
Post by
ironmonkee1
Thanks for the tough love. This is the kind of info I need. I have a few questions/responses to your comments. I'll address them in the order they appear.
That macro is terrible, for starters.
What macro do you suggest then? The Elitest Jerks post is lacking in any real macros. Should I remove the Divine Storm from it or reorganize it somehow? Please explain as to why it is bad so I can fix it. A little more insight would be great on this one.
You're more than 100 hit rating above cap and you are using a Mark of Supremacy
What trinket should I be using then? I picked it up because I was told I needed to reach the spell hit cap and because the on use affect of the item was good (1024 AP bonus for 20 seconds). It replaced my
Meteorite Whetstone
. Should I reequip that instead?
You put a Nightmare tear into your belt buckle as opposed to somewhere it can be used to acquire a socket bonus
I'll fix it ASAP
You're socketing Str/Sta and Expertise gems
I'll fix that ASAP too
You're using the wrong meta gem - Relentless is what you should be using
See the last two. ; )
That cloak... gyaaaaah
As far as gear goes, I have very limited play time (less than 4 hours a week not including the one or two days
every other week
I get to raid...if I am slotted) to get gear. I am working on gear, but I have to deal with what I have. I am currently saving Emblems of Frost (currently at 35) to get my 2 piece T10 bonus. Everything else will have to come in time (which I lack greatly in).
Post by
Raleandris
You shouldn't be using a macro at all. Stop being lazy and drag each ability out onto your action bars. Keybind them, and then push them in the right order using the proper clash resolution for your gear.
Post by
ironmonkee1
You shouldn't be using a macro at all. Stop being lazy and drag each ability out onto your action bars. Keybind them, and then push them in the right order using the proper clash resolution for your gear.
While I don't agree with you on the assessment that I am "being lazy" in using a macro (I've had much success in using them on other characters in the past), I will try the method you suggested and see how it turns out. I am open to anything at this point as my orc shaman who has lesser quality gear than my paladin is out DPS'ing him right now and that is just plain sad.
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Post by
ironmonkee1
Okay, I'm a believer.
I just tried out against a target dummy the FCFS thing that everyone is going on about. I saw my DPS go up by over 1200 because of it. It will take some getting used to though as it sure was nice sitting here spamming one button. As far as using Seal of Command for mana regen instead of Seal of Wisdom, don't I need to glyph for that? If so, should I do that with my current glyph setup or just cast Seal of Wisdom and Divine Plea as needed? Thanks again for everyone's help on this too. I can't wait to play my paladin more now!
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Post by
ironmonkee1
I am using Judgement of Wisdom and Divine Plea. I switch out to Light on some fights, but for the most part stick with Wisdom. I am just afraid of running out of mana with Consecration being such a mana hog and me only having 5.9K of mana. In regards to the trinkets, should I put my
Mark of Supremacy
in the bank and pick up
Mirror of Truth
to replace it? What about the
Banner of Victory
I currently have equipped? Should I replace that too?
Also, some clarification on the FCFS rotation: I have my task bar setup like this now:
2-JoW, 3-HoW, 4-CS, 5-DS, 6-Consecrate, 7-Exorcism, 8-HW
Now, if a ability comes available and doesn't follow that flow, I go ahead and use it, right? Also, is there an add-on that will provide some sort of HUD like display to show me when stuff becomes available so I can activate it? Similar to how the Shock and Awe add-on is for Enhancement shaman? Thanks again all.
Post by
pezz
In regards to the trinkets, should I put my Mark of Supremacy in the bank and pick up Mirror of Truth to replace it?
Yes. Banner is also fine until you can get some raid trinkets.
Now, if a ability comes available and doesn't follow that flow, I go ahead and use it, right?
Yes.
Also, is there an add-on that will provide some sort of HUD like display to show me when stuff becomes available so I can activate it?
CLCret will do it. It takes up a bunch of space on your screen and your 'rotation' should take about a brain cell and a half to stick to, but it will do it if you really want it to.
Post by
Brique
2-JoW, 3-HoW, 4-CS, 5-DS, 6-Consecrate, 7-Exorcism, 8-HW
You should start learning about shift modifiers for similar skills. Your most used ability will probably be Crusader Strike without t10, and Divine Storm with t10, so bind that to an easily hittable key for a quick reaction; even bind it to your scrollwheel if you think that'd be a quick reaction too. I'd say Consecrate and Holy Wrath are similar abilities in PVE, so I bind them together. I say Exorcism and Hammer of Wrath are similar abilities, so I bind them together. Just use a bit of common sense. If that's how you're currently laying out your keybindings, then godspeed, you're doing it the hard way.
Post by
ironmonkee1
@Pezz: Thanks for the advice. I installed CLCret and was able to get the size of the icons to where it wasn't so large. I mainly wanted it so I could keep an eye on events on screen instead of watching my task bar for cooldowns. I will play with it and see how it helps (if it does at all).
@Brique: I went back and did a shift modifier for Consecrate and Holy Wrath already. I am all about reducing key strokes and combining stuff (which is why I used a macro in the first place) where needed. Thanks for the tip, though.
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Post by
pezz
There's a 219 in Reg HoR, as well.
Post by
ironmonkee1
Ah, cool! I will have to start farming that then. Thanks for the info!
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