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Post by
MischievousLoki
New testament;
"You've just killed my son, you're kinda cool. Be nice, now." *disappears into some unknown realm*Because that was the plan all along.
Post by
Skreeran
I believe God was very clear that homosexuality is a sin. I do not remember the verse but it was something along the lines of "A man may not lay with a man. And, a woman may not lay with a woman."
God does not to say to hate anyone. He has commanded us to hate sin.He also ordered us not to eat pigs.
Or use a field for more than 7 years in a row without giving it a Sabbath rest.
Post by
cheezedood21
Well, for the first, the command to not eat pigs was back when a means of removing harmful bacteria had not yet been discovered. He was simply trying to protect his people.
Post by
Patty
Well, for the first, the command to not eat pigs was back when a means of removing harmful bacteria had not yet been discovered. He was simply trying to protect his people.
Pigs aren't the only food with harmful bacteria.
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149406
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Post by
cheezedood21
Well, for the first, the command to not eat pigs was back when a means of removing harmful bacteria had not yet been discovered. He was simply trying to protect his people.
Pigs aren't the only food with harmful bacteria.Yes, but they were the most harmful. Back then,
everything
had some sort of harmful bacteria.
Post by
Skreeran
Well, for the first, the command to not eat pigs was back when a means of removing harmful bacteria had not yet been discovered. He was simply trying to protect his people.That sounds like BS to me. So you can eat cows with Mad Cow Disease, birds with Salmonella, but pigs are special? How about ostrich? What's the risk in that that make it so special?
That's why I believe that some of the Old Testament was misconstrued or just in general untrue. That's too much of a contradiction, for me.
But the new testament is true completely? Assuming that the order I quoted in the Old Testament was true, it's much more likely than the New Testament's "God said to Jesus who said to me"; which is like a game of Chinese whispers, it'll never be the whole truth!
There are untruths in each. But ultimately, it comes down to one's choice of what to believe. My choice is that the New Testament is correct. Your choice is apparently different. I don't judge you by your choice, but I've made mine. None of us here has the ability to prove another's choice to be wrong, and that is central to belief. We don't
know
it to be true, but we
believe
it to be.Why do you believe it, if you can't prove it?
Post by
Patty
There are untruths in each. But ultimately, it comes down to one's choice of what to believe. My choice is that the New Testament is correct. Your choice is apparently different. I don't judge you by your choice, but I've made mine. None of us here has the ability to prove another's choice to be wrong, and that is central to belief. We don't
know
it to be true, but we
believe
it to be.
Well, mine is that both are bollocks, personally, and I don't see how one can claim a quite obvious lie, or distortion of the truth, is the 'correct' thing to believe.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, for the first, the command to not eat pigs was back when a means of removing harmful bacteria had not yet been discovered. He was simply trying to protect his people.
Pigs aren't the only food with harmful bacteria.Yes, but they were the most harmful. Back then,
everything
had some sort of harmful bacteria.
Everything still does; if you don't prepare chicken right, it will kill you.
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Post by
Skreeran
I probably think about it more than most people I know, most likely because of how insane it all seems to me (imagine for a moment you lived in a country where 90% of the population were convinced that fairies and dragons existed, and reacted with shock and occasional disgust that you didn't).This.
Edit: That is to say, I support fnifang's entire post. That last paragraph was just the thing that really stood out to me.
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Post by
TMSama
I don't know about the rest of my fellow Christians, but the bible I read was specifically against
murder
, which by definition, is homicide in cold blood.
That is to say, I do not think that we are penalized in extenuating circumstances such as self-defense... but that's just my interpretation. I could be wrong, or I could have a mistranslated bible.
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204878
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Post by
Monday
Why do you believe it, if you can't prove it?
People believe many things. Can you prove your car will turn on? Can you prove you will live through the night?
No. But you believe you will.
Why is God allowed to commit murder?
I can never get a satisfactory answer to that question.
My only answer is that God isn't constrained by the same commandments he gives his followers.
/shrug I don't know honestly, that's just my opinion.
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Post by
Monday
My only answer is that God isn't constrained by the same commandments he gives his followers.
Surely any leader who is above the law and above judgement is a dictator?
"a person exercising absolute power, esp. a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession."
By human standards God would be evil, I don't see how anyone could claim such a being to be all loving.
What is he then? A democracy?
God(s) are dictators. It's been seen multiple times as they are wiser than us and know what's good for us (If you are a believer.)
Edit: And Dictator=/=Evil. It's just a form of governing something. Sometimes it might be the best for a certain country/nation/peoples etc.
Post by
Skreeran
Why do you believe it, if you can't prove it?
People believe many things. Can you prove your car will turn on? Can you prove you will live through the night?
No. But you believe you will. I have evidence to suggest that my car will probably start, and that I will probably live through the night. My car has started all the other times I've tried. I can look at blueprints and see how it starts. If it doesn't, I can find out why not. Likewise, I have locks on my doors, I live in a safe neighborhood, and I've lived through all the other nights I've slept through. I have measureable and observable evidence for my beliefs.
Blind belief in God seems about as rational to me as blind belief in faeries, honestly. Yes, you can believe with all your heart that they exist, but I don't understand how you could.
I'm not trying to change your beliefs. I simply do not understand how someone can blindly believe something with no evidence to back it up.
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