LF insight on a couple of tanking items

Post by savagy

First of all here's my armory link. Hopefully you won't catch me in DPS gear.

I was using The Facelifter / Neverending Winter and I acquired Crusader's Glory / Bulwark of the Royal Guard in a recent ToGC 10 run.

I was hoping to get some advice on which to use. I'm leaning more toward the hc items, however I am losing some Expertise ( drops from 24 to 20 ) if I swap the sword and I lose a little Block Rating if I swap the shield.

The hc items gain is mostly the extra stamina through sockets.

Anyway, looking forward to checking your replies ;)

PS: I prepared the comparisons for ease below.

Shields
Weapons

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yes, the togc items are both better. i was lucky enough to get the shield a while back, but never the sword :(

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Post by Porcell

Crusader's Glory and Bulwark are both better than the 251 pieces from ICC 10 man. Don't sweat the loss of 4 expertise, that's not a big deal. You lose a little bit of avoidance (Less than 0.5%), you lose the block rating (who cares) and the 4 expertise (doesn't really matter), and you gain a couple hundred armor and around 44 Stamina (which is pretty huge).

I don't understand, can someone explain to me how the 251 items are worse? According to my tooltips, if you go from the 245HCs to the 251s you gain loads of stamina and strength, expertise, SBV, and parry. The 251s also have more armor - the only thing you would gain by using the 245hc items would be a small amount of dodge.

Um, you quoted the section where I told you why the 251 is worse. You net gain armor (from the armor on the weapon) and you gain 44 stamina (due to the heroic pieces have sockets). That's why they are better. You lose a smidge of avoidance, a chunk of block rating (who cares) and 4 expertise (again, not a big deal). 44 Stamina is a huge upgrade.

Here's the breakdown individually:

Facelifter vs Crusader's Glory:
+8.9 DPS
+10 Defense
+41 Parry
+36 Expertise
-14 Strength
-14 Stamina
-18 Dodge
-522 Armor (=~43 Stamina worth of EH)

Neverending Winter vs Bulwark
+178 Armor (=~15 Stamina worth of EH)
+22 Strength
+4 Defense
+1 Parry
+37 Block Rating
-30 Stamina
-115 Block Value

I bolded the important bits. Strength doesn't really matter. The avoidance differences are negligible. Both the Block Rating and Block Value aren't a big deal. as well as the Expertise. Armor is a big deal. Stamina is a big deal.

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Post by savagy

Thanks for all the helpful replies. I'm gonna use teh ToGC items.

@ Harmacy yea, i collect em anyway :]

LF insight on a couple of tanking items

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