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Zakkhar
Stop considering your self a "hunter mentor"
He is nowhere nearmentor, he is a simple troll.
because you're not even well geared so you don't know why this item is useful.
You dont need to even have a hunter to be able to theorycraft/spreadsheet.
It took me two months to get more geared than you and by no means am I a "mentor" but I know why this trinket IS useful for hunters.
Again, gear =/= knowledge. As shows the example of all this high gs noobs failing on basic stuff ("whats MD?").
If you are stacking Agility and Crit, then don't use this trinket. The NES, even Mirror of Truth is better.
http://www.femaledwarf.com/
says otherwise. Even for SV spec its better than MoT. Wanna try to argue, mister "not-mentor?"
But if you are a MM hunter and have approx. 700 Arm pen from your gear, you should be stacking Arm pen so that you'd have approx. 1,000 Arm pen total after switching gems. If that's the case, you will be relying on your physical dps and that's why the Token is great for Hunters.
Half our damage comes from auto shot and steady shot so that's where the haste comes in. More haste means faster shots, which means more damage. Makes sense doesn't it? Don't forget that aimed shot and kill shot are also physical dps so most of your dps will come from physical shots.
Physical dps? Ok.
1 point of Hit (under hit cap) gives more physical dps than 1 haste.
1 point of Arp gives more physical dps than 1 haste.
2 point of AP give more physical dps than 1 haste.
1 point of agility gives physical more dps than 1 haste.
Hell even 1 point in crit gives more physical dps than haste.
All these stats affect your physical dps
as well as all other dps
, Serpent sting included if you happen to still have p2t9 bonus. Why even consider inferior haste? You dont have any PPM abilities like Frost Dks, Enh shamans or Rogues. Your GCDs arent affected by it. Why even consider it as viable hunter stat? I know why - gearscore. No thank you.
Haste is almost useless for MM and BM due to Imp Hawk. Its so so (still bottom of the list) for Survival as most specs setups dont have enough points to invest in Imp Hawk.
By the way you're your 40 over hit cap. Nice job of wasting stats mr. "mentor."
And what he should do in your opinion? Unequip the piece with additional hit and run naked? You dont always have anything better to swap it - drops are rng. Buying a sidegrade just because you temporarily are over hit cap is pointless. I am 2-3 over hit cap. Should i go to corner and cry?
He has 40 itemisation points wasted in his gear. How many points you waste on haste in Herkuml?
153. And you deliberately bought it. Ouc.
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rzzr
Like everything, just spreadsheet it. If increases your damage and you have lots of frosties buy it. It will never be first on a shopping list but that doesn't mean you should never buy it.
For the record I have this trinket as spreadsheet says it is better than the Darkmoon Card Greatness for my gear (MM spec).
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Fulgurah
Pretty rough start to Wowhead. I admit that I've spent the vast majority of my time over on the Shaman and Paladin forums and so coming over to the Hunter forums, I was wondering what the hell was up with this 'northernsky' guy who wasn't even that well geared. But, you learn quickly by reading posts that he's some sort of half-troll/half-mentor-for-beginnings mutant.
Let's be honest -- War Token is used in nearly every case by hunters for one reason alone: gear score. Most hunters will still be running around with MoT or DMC:G and the War Token is 100 GS points more than those trinkets. It allows you to send the tell about "5.6k gs" instead of "5.5k gs." And there are better items to be purchased with your frost emblems than the War Token. And I find it incredibly difficult to believe that if a person has managed to get 4p t10+cloak that they haven't gotten WFS, DBW or DC/V.
It's a good message for beginners - Don't buy it. Because there are more important things.
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bobn9lvu
Pretty rough start to Wowhead. I admit that I've spent the vast majority of my time over on the Shaman and Paladin forums and so coming over to the Hunter forums, I was wondering what the hell was up with this 'northernsky' guy who wasn't even that well geared. But, you learn quickly by reading posts that he's some sort of half-troll/half-mentor-for-beginnings mutant.
Let's be honest -- War Token is used in nearly every case by hunters for one reason alone: gear score. Most hunters will still be running around with MoT or DMC:G and the War Token is 100 GS points more than those trinkets. It allows you to send the tell about "5.6k gs" instead of "5.5k gs." And there are better items to be purchased with your frost emblems than the War Token. And I find it incredibly difficult to believe that if a person has managed to get 4p t10+cloak that they haven't gotten WFS, DBW or DC/V.
It's a good message for beginners - Don't buy it. Because there are more important things.
Well, when you mention 4pT10, that is not an accurate statement.
It does not pay to upgrade from 2p 245 T9 / 2p T10 to 4p T10,
until you have at least 2p of the T10 at 264.
Otherwise it would be a dps/damage loss.
The 4p T10 are Helm Chest 264 Gloves Shoulders 251 ...
I do have HWT as it was a very good upgrade from DMG. I also have NES.
Of all the trinkets I have atm, theses two trinkets are best for me according to both spreadsheets.
Of the better trinkets, I lost out on a roll for WFS, and had no chance at DBW (guild/dkp).
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Fulgurah
I'm still going to be buying my 4pt10 pieces even before breaking my 245 t92p simply to get them out of the way. I don't want to be in the position when I AM able to upgrade to Sanc. and having to wait on the Frost badges to buy the pieces. That was my point there.
In addition, it's important to remember, as everyone knows, that the spreadsheet is under the most ideal of ideal conditions. Your results will probably vary when using it.
You could still also be using those 60 frost emblems for Prim. Saronites to craft the legs if you haven't been able to get the drop from Deathwhisper.
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Achloryn
ps. Its Herkumi with an i and there has been a stuff up with meh gears, im using some SV and some MM gear -.-
You sure about that?
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bobn9lvu
I'm still going to be buying my 4pt10 pieces even before breaking my 245 t92p simply to get them out of the way. I don't want to be in the position when I AM able to upgrade to Sanc. and having to wait on the Frost badges to buy the pieces. That was my point there.
In addition, it's important to remember, as everyone knows, that the spreadsheet is under the most ideal of ideal conditions. Your results will probably vary when using it.
You could still also be using those 60 frost emblems for Prim. Saronites to craft the legs if you haven't been able to get the drop from Deathwhisper.
I have the shoulders helm T10 , leg gloves T9, chest festergut, legs lady and more than enough frost to get all 3 of the T10 I don't have.
The only thing holding me back is the loss of dps unless I can get another 264 T10 piece.
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