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Post by
Qlix
The way a hunter DOES pull aggro is:
A: Tank sux badly
B: Hunter doesnt MD or wait for tank to gain a little aggro before going all out
C: Hunter is wreckless or has growl on pet on
I have raided Kara, Gruuls, Mags, ZA, and god knows how many heroic runs, and I RARELY pull aggro, and if I do, its time to replace the tank. Take Spinebreaker server, alliance, guild VoX, main tank Kaldorei, I burn hardcore dps, all out, go OOM all day, and not once in Kara did I EVER pull aggro. So if your constantly pulling aggro, either your not giving tank time for aggro, or your tank sux, and no, my DPS does not get gimped in raids/heroics....
im gonna call BS... because without FD if you go balls to the wall and blow cooldowns when theyre up YOURE GOING TO PULL AGRO. I dont care who the tank is... a hunter that knows what hes doing, like hungryshadow said, generates way more TPS than any tank... so... eaither A) youre gimping your DPS or B) youre feigning...
Post by
Zott
Thanks for all the great responses. I started using FD during instances to wipe the aggro and this definitely seems the way to go.
Post by
Vengified
im gonna call BS... because without FD if you go balls to the wall and blow cooldowns when theyre up YOURE GOING TO PULL AGRO. I dont care who the tank is... a hunter that knows what hes doing, like hungryshadow said, generates way more TPS than any tank... so... eaither A) youre gimping your DPS or B) youre feigning...
Call BS bro... Honestly, if you choose not to believe me, it truly is your right! But like I said, I do runs with the top Alliance guild on my server, and never pull aggro... If you use MD on the important pulls, and start off with an autoshot instead of an aimed, you dont pull aggro. Not to mention, Blessing of Salvation if possible. Feign is a good strategy, and I dont deny that, but there are alternatives to FD on every pull... And as far as you all out dpsing and pulling aggro from ANY tank, you either run with crappy tanks ALL the time, or your gear is below average, cuz I have done MANY runs with GOOD tanks and all out dps and dont pull aggro, and my gear is NOT below average. Full epics from Kara, Gruuls, Mags, SSC...
Post by
Qlix
post the guild, post armory links to the tanks and while we're at it lets see your armory link as well. The tanks seriously have to outgear the hunter by a huge margin. BTW.... since when is Aimed Shot part of any viable shot rotation in a raid? its not...
Post by
Vengified
Guild Link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Vox&p=1
Main Tank Link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Kaldorei
My Link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Vengified
No, that is not my Raid Gear, I will certainly post an updated link tomorrow when I have a chance. My raid gear consists of T4 shoulders and gloves, T5 helm, Legacy, and Rip-Flayer Legs, other than that, its the same. Yes, the tank outgears me, however, he is not the ONLY tank I have ever ran anything with, yet I still dont pull aggro... Tell me my gear sucks, go ahead... And I didnt say Aimed Shot was in a shot rotation, I said IF someone started with an aimed shot, the word is IF... I know there are many dumb hunters out there who have no idea how to play their toon, I was simply stating that in the wrong situation, or if you have an idiot playing, you will pull aggro from a tank...
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This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Vengified
BTW Reaper, if your one to call me out on how Im geared, and how you can EASILY pull aggro from any tank in 10 seconds, whats your link? Or maybe your guild and main tanks link?
Post by
Qlix
here is me
Samba <Gathering FX> Gnomeregan - US
find Pookah in the same guild, or Omegastorm...
and before we get into a "my gear is better than yours" debate remember im not comparing myself to you... im comparing you to your tanks. I havent even seen SSC or most of TK yet so by comparison your gear "should" be better. Im honestly not trying to get into a debate as to who is better im simply trying to get a point across about game mechanics based on your comment about NEVER using FD. I can see if you were in T4 and your tanks were in T5/6 gear you never pulling agro no matter how "balls to the wall" you go. but at equal gear... no way... tank just cannot produce enough TPS to stay ahead.
Post by
Qlix
Guild Link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Vox&p=1
Main Tank Link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Kaldorei
My Link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Vengified
No, that is not my Raid Gear, I will certainly post an updated link tomorrow when I have a chance. My raid gear consists of T4 shoulders and gloves, T5 helm, Legacy, and Rip-Flayer Legs, other than that, its the same. Yes, the tank outgears me, however, he is not the ONLY tank I have ever ran anything with, yet I still dont pull aggro... Tell me my gear sucks, go ahead... And I didnt say Aimed Shot was in a shot rotation, I said IF someone started with an aimed shot, the word is IF... I know there are many dumb hunters out there who have no idea how to play their toon, I was simply stating that in the wrong situation, or if you have an idiot playing, you will pull aggro from a tank...
ok... so here is my thoughts on your links:
as i said in my previous posts... your tank is in 3 pieces of T6 with a few other BT drops, 1 SSC drop, 1 Hyjal drop and 1 ZA drop...
you are in Kara/T4 and PvP gear with ONE piece of T5. so like i said.... THAT tank BETTER keep agro over you or something is wrong man. her gear greatly overshadows yours.
Post by
Vengified
I was never trying to compare gear either bro... Yes that tank SERIOUSLY outgears me, but yet again, I have been with tanks in comparable gear to my own, i simply start my dps slow, wait for 1-2 sunders, start steadyshot, then do my rotations, I never seem to pull aggro that way, my AP is fine, my crit is fine, my gear is fine, and I still stay at the top of the DPS meter even as marks, I just simply dont pull aggro... But either way, I never said FD was useless, it is a good strat, I simply never use it myself... I guess being the defensive people we are, you and I both kinda blew things way outta proportion LOL! Both our gear is fine, and to each their own ya know? You play your way, I play mine, we both happy! =)
Post by
Qlix
I guess being the defensive people we are, you and I both kinda blew things way outta proportion LOL! Both our gear is fine, and to each their own ya know? You play your way, I play mine, we both happy! =)
/agree lol
now... how bout that horrid new graphic for the
Crossbow of Relentless Strikes
!? >.<
*attempts to change subject* =P
Post by
Vengified
Lol! No hard feelings bro, we all hunters, we all got the same spirit! =) You know anything about MM spec for PvP? Im confused as heck, check out my other topic, I cant decide on whats better, traps, stings, or barrage =/
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