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Post by
Laihendi
Pushing someone in front of the trolley is stupid, because you could jump in front of it yourself. Only a selfish !@#$%^& would push someone in front of it like that.
And for the first scenario... assuming you know nothing about the people you're trying to save, it seems like the obvious thing to do would be to save the 5 people instead of the one, because it's hard to imagine how one person could be worth 5 people's lives.
Your tied down to. Happy now?
How can you possibly push someone in front of a trolley if you're tied down?
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
This thread is about trolleys. Stay on topic, or you will be reported. Consider this a warning (that goes for all of you doing this).
Yes, go ahead and report the OP for being off-topic.
What?
Will you be reporting yourself for double-posting too?
Post by
Orranis
However, the fact that cutting the tube results in sterilization adds another variable.
An irrelevant detail if, again, you believe in the intrinsic worth of the human being. Life > Fertility. To make fertility an end above life would be morally wrong.
If the mother wants future pregnancies, aren't you preventing future good by cutting the tube? Wouldn't allowing for future pregnancies outweigh the minor evil of killing the embryo?
Again, see? You don't accept the intrinsic worth of the human life. The loss of fertility is the "minor evil" in this situation.
It would be a more interesting moral problem if the baby would survive in an ectopic pregnancy, but the mother would die.
You cannot kill the mother for the sake of the child just like you can't do the converse. The mother can choose to save the child, however.
Because both actions kill the embryo, and one saves more than the other. To weigh in whether you are killing it or not, something that ultimately boils down to your own guilty conscious and nothing else, seems incredibly selfish to me.
No one has said anything about
conscience
, so what does that have to do with anything?
And as I already said, only one is killing.
Essentially, are differences are this. With you, evil is a verb. With us, it's an end. For you it's killing an embryo. For us it's saving fertility.This thread is about trolleys. Stay on topic, or you will be reported. Consider this a warning (that goes for all of you doing this).
Actually, this is directly intertwined with the topic. In fact, it's the exact same topic with more allowance of discussion.
Post by
Laihendi
This thread is about trolleys. Stay on topic, or you will be reported. Consider this a warning (that goes for all of you doing this).
Yes, go ahead and report the OP for being off-topic.
What?
Will you be reporting yourself for double-posting too?
Being the OP doesn't give you special permission to break the rules. Rules are rules.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Being the OP doesn't give you special permission to break the rules. Rules are rules.
Being the OP does give you the power to make a thread about whatever you want.
I made an analogy concerning abortion, the OP responded to the analogy. Tough luck for you.
Post by
Laihendi
Thread topic is about trolleys, the first post is about trolleys. The OP went off topic, the OP got reported.
'Nuff said.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Thread topic is about trolleys, the first post is about trolleys. The OP went off topic, the OP got reported.
'Nuff said.
No, the first post is about morality, using a scenario involving trolleys as a case study.
Still waiting for a explanation as to what you mean, Orranis.
Post by
Laihendi
Thread topic is about trolleys, the first post is about trolleys. The OP went off topic, the OP got reported.
'Nuff said.
No, the first post is about morality, using a scenario involving trolleys as a case study.
Still waiting for a explanation as to what you mean, Orranis.
The first post is about the morality of trolleys. Get your facts straight.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
The first post is about the morality of trolleys. Get your facts straight.
The OP would disagree with you, and he's in much more of a position to know the "facts."
FYI, I don't back down to trolling, so if you want to back out, now would be the best time to do so.
Post by
Laihendi
OP needs to get his facts straight too then.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
OP needs to get his facts straight too then.
You +1's don't work on me.
Post by
Laihendi
Get out troll.
Post by
MyTie
This thread is about trolleys. Stay on topic, or you will be reported. Consider this a warning (that goes for all of you doing this).
This thread may use trolley's as its main venue, but it is moreso about moral dilemmas, and the topic they are using further explores it. No rule says that you HAVE to talk about trolleys, and only trolleys. You can go ahead and report everyone you want, but it will only be an annoyance. Really, they were on topic, and you got offtopic to play Mr. Policeman, threatening them because you feel they went off topic.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Get out troll.Get out troll.
Post by
Laihendi
This thread is about trolleys. Stay on topic, or you will be reported. Consider this a warning (that goes for all of you doing this).
This thread may use trolley's as its main venue, but it is moreso about moral dilemmas, and the topic they are using further explores it. No rule says that you HAVE to talk about trolleys, and only trolleys. You can go ahead and report everyone you want, but it will only be an annoyance. Really, they were on topic, and you got offtopic to play Mr. Policeman, threatening them because you feel they went off topic.
You can interpret the meaning of this thread however you want, but the fact is that this is a thread about trolleys.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
You can interpret the meaning of this thread however you want, but the fact is that this is a thread about trolleys.
You can interpret the meaning of this thread however you want, but the fact is that this is a thread about moral dilemmas.
Post by
149406
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
You can interpret the meaning of this thread however you want, but the fact is that this is a thread about trolleys.I think you're just fishing for attention. Why not go to RB, and let us get back to the topic?
Post by
Laihendi
You can interpret the meaning of this thread however you want, but the fact is that this is a thread about trolleys.I think you're just fishing for attention. Why not go to RB, and let us get back to the topic?
Why don't you make your own thread about moral dilemmas if you want to talk about them so much, so Laihendi can discuss trolleys without all the spam?
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Useless information was his point, but this was a bit of an exaggeration.
He asked for a moral absolute. I gave it to him.
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