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WTF pallies?
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Hi
i'm not an experienced warrior but, i can see some background on this.
I don't know about most of the servers, but i can speak for maybe 4 servers where finding a tank to do some instance would be a pain...
On the server i mainly play, to arrange a group, one would need over an hour because tanks were always:
a) busy
b) logging
c) selling / crafting
d) not giving a damn
so, i guess that's the main reason blizz is giving other classes the hability to tank and is boosting them to do it.
but that's only my opinion and i've just roled a warrior so, let's see if this fact changes the way i think :)
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Aside from the fact that the dps/tank spec comes back next patch, why should warriors get just one job? Pallies are now the best healers, the tanking is a throw up between them, druids, and warriors; now they get to dps? Why the hell are they getting all the love from blizz? Converse.
There are a lot of bosses that are better suited to warrior tanks then paladin or druid. We still definitely have the primary tanking position. However Pallies being the best healers in the game? I think Priests might have something to say about that but to be honest I love having a mix of the healers in the raid as it gives you a lot of options. I think Pallies being able to DPS is a good thing as to be honest ret pallies are a bit of a joke in the game. I am looking forward to seeing what they do with the class and how well/badly it comes off.
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So as I see it. Paladins have 3 talent trees and you MUST spec deep into each to be good at any one thing, Warriors have 3 talent trees and can be pretty decent at everything no matter what your spec.
Quit Whining.
Lol, are you really saying I can dps in my warrior prot spec?
Prot for paladins does plenty of damage and is fantastic soloing/farming spec, unlike prot for warriors. There's really no comparison there.
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Warriors have always gone both ways even pre BC with DPS and Tank specs. The only real difference between now and BC is that a warrior actually has to spec past defiance in order to tank well.
As for other classes that can tank (IE Druids and Paladins) they both have flaws and so do warriors. Its just the warriors seem to come up with the least amount.
Paladins are the Kings of AOE tanking. Run up avenger's shield and start spaming Concerate. Druids can Kind of do it with swipe, and warriors don't even stand a chance in this catgoery. Paladins however have to juggle many more stats than druids and Warriors. Not only do they need a larger amount of avoidance and Mitigation to become uncrushable like warriors, but they must also factor in spell damage and health. Not to mention if a Paladin is Silenced their TPS drops down the drain. Also their threat per second against Warriors and Druids are less on single targets.
Druids Have the most HP out of all the tanks in the game, have decent threat on AOE pulls and Single Targets. They have the most armor and the most amount of dodge. However a Druid can not Parry nor Block attacks. They must simply eat all damage they don't dodge including crushing blows. They do however require less rage to activate abilities which makes them an excellent choice for off tanks.
Warriors have the worst threat on AOE targets but have the greatest amount of TPS on single Targets. They can easily become uncrushable with low mitigation, and can simply begin to stack additional Stamina. However as their gear scales, it becomes more and more difficult to tank lower gear required instances.
All tanks have their ups and downs. Warriors just seem to have the least amount, or at least less noticeable.
As for DPS, warriors have always had amazing DPS. As long as they have the gear and Skill to back it up. Its not uncommon for fury warriors to put out almost as much damage as rogues, and for 33/28 and 31/30 warriors to put out a solid ammount of Damage.
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