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Post by
Rankkor
Keep in mind that Cataclysm will change a whole lot of things. Hence why I'm leveling a BE Warrior once it hits - Want to see how they'll introduce those.
they have all been alredy in there (spellbreakers and the elven swordsmen of war3 ring any bells?)
they weren't added before for gameplay reasons, but lorewise elves (and all races in general) have allways had warriors, no exeptions, even murlocs....
there is no need of new lore to introduce warriors to the blood-elves.
what really itches my curiosity, is how will the plagelands will be reworked, as by then the scourge should had been defeated, so what's gonna happen to all the undead there, and what will happen to the scarlets?
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306612
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Post by
Rankkor
they only give new lore to new classes that don't quite fit the race they're being added to.
night-elves getting mages will definitly require some explanation to clarify that madness.
ditto for gnome priests, and dwarf shaman.
ditto for forsaken hunters (Though with so many dark-rangers on UC, maybe this isn't as fartetched)
ditto for tauren priest/pally
ditto for troll druids
ditto for human hunters.
but really, for orc mages, and dwarven mages, as well as blood-elven warriors no explanation is needed.
as for mages, every race on azeroth can be a mage, is not like you have to be super smart to be one, after all if ogres (who are dumber than a rock, but more ugly) can have mages among them, then all other races, if they want to they can study the arcane, the night-elves are an exeption because their society has a stigma against arcane arts, and so they are the only ones that require an explanation for the class being there.
likewise for warriors, blood-elves had always had warriors, no need to add new lore to explain how they had something they already have had for centuries.
on warcraft 3, on the blood-elf campaign they had swordsmen, as well as spellbreakers.
the silvermoon guards are warriors bro' and you can see several blood-elven warrior NPC's (friendly and enemy) on many parts of the game.
I can recall 1 blood-elf warrior serving kael'tas in shadowmoon valley and he was a warrior as he had mortal strike and cleave and was wearing warrior tier 3 (will link name later)
so no new lore for that is needed.
however when u break the mold with something as bizzare and outrageous as a tauren paladin, or a dwarf shaman, or a gnome priest, some level of explanation is needed.
Post by
Adamsm
Keep in mind that Cataclysm will change a whole lot of things. Hence why I'm leveling a BE Warrior once it hits - Want to see how they'll introduce those.
Everything is being redone, all the 1-60 quests, so might as well do it Alliance side as well Sigma.
Post by
HiVolt
Everything is being redone, all the 1-60 quests
, so might as well do it Alliance side as well Sigma.
Not
All
of them. Blizzard has said that they will be keeping some of the fan-favorites. Although I'm really not sure what those would be...
I'm guessing they won't be keeping the damned slow-walking escort quests... always hated those.
Post by
Adamsm
Everything is being redone, all the 1-60 quests
, so might as well do it Alliance side as well Sigma.
Not
All
of them. Blizzard has said that they will be keeping some of the fan-favorites. Although I'm really not sure what those would be...
I'm guessing they won't be keeping the damned slow-walking escort quests... always hated those.
Going to be enough that the original Loremaster achieves of Azeroth might be becoming Feats of Strength to make way for the new ones.
Post by
Rankkor
by keeping some of the fan-favorites, maybe they'll include the quest of Ezra....... that kid that died of cancer, and before he died, blizzard paid a homage to him by adding a tauren NPC (voiced by the kid himself) that had the name of his wow-toon and they also added a weapon named after him......
but yhea, I'm planning on revisiting all of the lore, over all I got 4 toons planned for cata......
1 Worgen (Haven't decided class, it won't matter anyways as after I finish their starting zone I'll prolly delete him, but for now warrior is a tentative choise)
1 Gnome Priest, to experience all the new alliance lore.
1 Goblin rogue, wich I plan to lvl only in their starting zones, when those are completed, I'll most likely just leave him for pvp, and level in BG's
1 Tauren Paladin: to experience all the new horde lore.
with any luck, all future escort quests will be like this one:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13229
this escort NPC, runs instead of walking, he avoids unnecesary fights by not aggroing any mob on sight
and on top of that uses all his class skills to perfection, he casts renew, powerword shield, greater heal, smite and holy fire.....
escorting people like him is SOOOO much better than escorting the god-dammed Defias Traitor... . =(
Post by
Monday
they only give new lore to new classes that don't quite fit the race they're being added to.
night-elves getting mages will definitly require some explanation to clarify that madness.
ditto for gnome priests, and dwarf shaman.
ditto for forsaken hunters (Though with so many dark-rangers on UC, maybe this isn't as fartetched)
ditto for tauren priest/pally
ditto for troll druids
ditto for human hunters.
but really, for orc mages, and dwarven mages, as well as blood-elven warriors no explanation is needed.
as for mages, every race on azeroth can be a mage, is not like you have to be super smart to be one, after all if ogres (who are dumber than a rock, but more ugly) can have mages among them, then all other races, if they want to they can study the arcane, the night-elves are an exeption because their society has a stigma against arcane arts, and so they are the only ones that require an explanation for the class being there.
likewise for warriors, blood-elves had always had warriors, no need to add new lore to explain how they had something they already have had for centuries.
on warcraft 3, on the blood-elf campaign they had swordsmen, as well as spellbreakers.
the silvermoon guards are warriors bro' and you can see several blood-elven warrior NPC's (friendly and enemy) on many parts of the game.
I can recall 1 blood-elf warrior serving kael'tas in shadowmoon valley and he was a warrior as he had mortal strike and cleave and was wearing warrior tier 3 (will link name later)
so no new lore for that is needed.
however when u break the mold with something as bizzare and outrageous as a tauren paladin, or a dwarf shaman, or a gnome priest, some level of explanation is needed.
I can explain every single one of those, I just don't have time atm. I'll edit later with all the reasons, unless someone beats me to it first.
Post by
HiVolt
they only give new lore to new classes that don't quite fit the race they're being added to.
night-elves getting mages will definitly require some explanation to clarify that madness.
ditto for gnome priests, and dwarf shaman.
ditto for forsaken hunters (Though with so many dark-rangers on UC, maybe this isn't as fartetched)
ditto for tauren priest/pally
ditto for troll druids
ditto for human hunters.
but really, for orc mages, and dwarven mages, as well as blood-elven warriors no explanation is needed.
as for mages, every race on azeroth can be a mage, is not like you have to be super smart to be one, after all if ogres (who are dumber than a rock, but more ugly) can have mages among them, then all other races, if they want to they can study the arcane, the night-elves are an exeption because their society has a stigma against arcane arts, and so they are the only ones that require an explanation for the class being there.
likewise for warriors, blood-elves had always had warriors, no need to add new lore to explain how they had something they already have had for centuries.
on warcraft 3, on the blood-elf campaign they had swordsmen, as well as spellbreakers.
the silvermoon guards are warriors bro' and you can see several blood-elven warrior NPC's (friendly and enemy) on many parts of the game.
I can recall 1 blood-elf warrior serving kael'tas in shadowmoon valley and he was a warrior as he had mortal strike and cleave and was wearing warrior tier 3 (will link name later)
so no new lore for that is needed.
however when u break the mold with something as bizzare and outrageous as a tauren paladin, or a dwarf shaman, or a gnome priest, some level of explanation is needed.
I can explain every single one of those, I just don't have time atm. I'll edit later with all the reasons, unless someone beats me to it first.
This should suffice.
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138638
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Post by
Adamsm
Yes, but he's learned since, and his stance is turning from the open war he wanted following Battle for Undercity, as he's had some time to calm down.
Post by
Rankkor
Yes, but he's learned since, and his stance is turning from the open war he wanted following Battle for Undercity, as he's had some time to calm down.
and yet despite his time to cool-off he acts like a jerk in the argent tournament and calls me an animal when I step into the trial of the champion.......
Post by
Adamsm
Yes, but he's learned since, and his stance is turning from the open war he wanted following Battle for Undercity, as he's had some time to calm down.
and yet despite his time to cool-off he acts like a jerk in the argent tournament and calls me an animal when I step into the trial of the champion.......
And Garrosh does the same for the Alliance.
Post by
Rankkor
And Garrosh does the same for the Alliance.
here's the gag
Garrosh=/= thrall, and on the UC varian's beef was specifically against thrall....
garrosh is just a clown placed to be varian's horde version, because thrall is above acting like a jerk.....
Post by
Adamsm
And Garrosh does the same for the Alliance.
here's the gag
Garrosh=/= thrall, and on the UC varian's beef was specifically against thrall....
garrosh is just a clown placed to be varian's horde version, because thrall is above acting like a jerk.....
It's still true, especially as the Clown is your next Warchief for the first part of Cata heh.
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451455
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Post by
Rankkor
yhea but let's not act all prophetic here.
back on the battle for the UC varian insulted thrall even when thrall did nothing to deserve that.... at best he misplaced his trust on sylvannas hability to handle her own subjects (and gelbin is just as guilty of the same crime)
this dind't stopped varian from acting like a jerk wihtout a need to do so on the argent tournament, where when he's greeted by tirion, no horde insults him and he still calls us animals and dirt.
(one thing is him returning an insult when someone offended him first such as what happened on the dalaran summit, but on the argent tournament NOBODY insults him, EVER and he still calls us animals)
your move....
Post by
Rankkor
I have been thinking about this thread, and all the other stupid crap Taruen has been making, for the past 14 hours since I left it, and I just wanted to say to Adams, HiV0LT4G3, Skreeran, Argentsun, Sigmafel, Patty, Muscleman, Delterius, Faceshield, Gumballs, Morec, Interest, and anyone else jsut looking at this that I am very sorry for dragging myself down to Taruen and Rankkorr's level. I just don't care about this crap anymore. Its the same thing everytime, and those guys arent any where close to looking at other people's opinions. If they want to blog about thier biased thrash, then let them. I don't care anymore. I am sorry that this thread turned out like how it did.
dragging to my level? weren't you insisting that the horde experimented on children even when addams, skreeran, argentsun, faceshield, chase, moreco, patty, taurenmoo, and myself had offered ample evidence (with skreeran making an entire thread dedicated to this) to prove that the horde DID NOT USED CHILDREN?
just admit that the horde has never used children (better yet read skreeran's post about it) and bury this.
and knock it out, no children has ever been used by forsaken to experiment with.
Post by
Adamsm
this dind't stopped varian from acting like a jerk wihtout a need to do so on the argent tournament, where when he's greeted by tirion, no horde insults him and he still calls us animals and dirt.Well, can't expect someone to turn around overnight can you? I've said before, while I'm fond of Varian, and I do like the King, I don't like the rage-aholic bigoted version of him we have up until ICC. That is the start of his turn around, I'm hoping Garrosh get's one as well in the lead up to Cataclysm.
They messed it up, I don't disagree, but it takes too sides to fight; Garrosh made it clear at the Summit what he thinks of the Alliance, and he does the same all through the Tourney.
Post by
Rankkor
don't like the rage-aholic bigoted version of him
That is the start of his turn around, I'm hoping Garrosh get's one as well in the lead up to Cataclysm.
AMEN! dude THIS is something we both agree 100%.
you see, is not like I have a personal grudge against varian "per se" I have a grudge agaist rage-aholics, I just don't like them, regardless of how justified or not that rage may be.
I do hope that they manage to "spark the conflict between horde and alliance" without resorting to rage-aholic leaders that go all like "MUAAHHH ME ANGRY I SMASH YOU PUNY ALLIANCE/HORDE BECAUSE WE ARE STRONGER ROOOAAAAARRR (beats chest like a gorilla)"
I've despised this type of leaders, like you have no idea.......
I'd actually be more simpatetic to both garrosh and varian if they weren't so prone to rage seizures.
the fact taht both love to resort to name-calling without provocation doesn't help either......
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