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Has the true Horde's spirit been dominated by belfs/undead?
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Adamsm
Then again, orc female rogue = Garona. You cannot escape it, sadly. Good thing I'm not on a RP server with her.
Come Cata, the sudden influx of Illidans and Azshara's are going to suck as well.
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Hunger
Then again, orc female rogue = Garona. You cannot escape it, sadly. Good thing I'm not on a RP server with her.
Come Cata, the sudden influx of Illidans and Azshara's are going to suck as well.
Azsharas would be night elf/blood elf mages, right?
And Illidans would be night elf rogues/warriors?
Post by
Adamsm
Both for Mages Hunger, Illidan and Azshara were the two strongest Night Elf mages before the Sundering.
Post by
Hunger
Both for Mages Hunger, Illidan and Azshara were the two strongest Night Elf mages before the Sundering.
Ah right, I was thinking demon hunter Illidan using Warglaives...
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Adamsm
Both for Mages Hunger, Illidan and Azshara were the two strongest Night Elf mages before the Sundering.
Ah right, I was thinking demon hunter Illidan using Warglaives...
Well yeah, but the mage thing is going to be worse; then it won't require them getting the item from BT....
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Patty
I think the spirit of the Horde adapts. The Horde is no longer just about "Lok'tar ogar!" - It's about survival and moving away from stigmas of the past. Considering that the Forsaken (in living forms) and the Blood Elves (as Quel'dorei) fought against the Orcs in the Second War, the Horde are certainly trying to continue and survive. The Horde is not all bound by honour and glorious combat, it is joined by favours.
Thrall helped the Tauren survive against the Centaur which threatened to drive the Tauren into extinction, Thrall helped the Trolls get away from their sinking islands and save most of them from the Sea witch and her murlocs. The Forsaken and Blood Elves are in the Horde for mutual survival - like all of the races in the Horde.
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lordyoshi01
My server has a lot of blood elves, but orcs and tauren are pretty common. Hell in just my guild alone half of the 80s are tauren. The race I rarely see are trolls. However in the cross server instance thing, yeah, blood elves are pretty common.
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TheHand
Welcome to the Alliance headache, where everyone is either a gnome, a human or a night elf, while my poor Draenei stands alone.
Oh, how I'd love to have your problem. In LFD every third player is a draenai female. My poor priest feels like a Blood Elf pala - seemed so shiny before but now is terribely common.
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Patty
The only way out of this is adaption.
Fe
male blood elves with pants and all other equipment removed on interface while dancing naked on mailboxes and tables will always represent the in-game Horde.Fix'd for my own observations. ^^
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Post by
Braevia
This is more than people wanting to play a pretty race - it's a matter of polish. The Troll female running animation just looks ridiculous, especially in a robe. I would have totally gone for a troll mage; their racial is better in endgame than Arcane Torrent.
Furthermore, regarding the polish issue, is that Silvermoon and its environs are a superior place to level a new character. The quest rewards tend to be nicer, and the areas are better designed.
Dranei are awesome, but I always end up hating mine because the faces look too generic, especially for the females.
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Adamsm
Furthermore, regarding the polish issue, is that Silvermoon and its environs are a superior place to level a new character. The quest rewards tend to be nicer, and the areas are better designed.Easier to get to the blood elf starting zone then the draenei one lol. Blood Elf you just take zepplin to undercity, then touch the orb. Draenei you have to run through 1-2 zones, then take a pair of boats.
Post by
Rankkor
as a whole I don't think the horde spirit has been dominated by belfs and undeads.
taurens and orcs are rare breeds, too few of them remain, specially tauren who where hunted down to the brink of extintion, and orcs suffered great losses on the first and second war, not to mention the hundreds of thousands that died in the concentration camps built to cage them in.
trolls represet a small tribe, as such is normal to be so few of them.
undead on the other hand are really abundant, after all the northen section of the eastern kingdoms had milions of humans, who where turned to scourge, and a large enough segment of them broke free.
and as for the blood-elves....... well in-game they are few (I think there are only 3 belf towns in the whole game if we don't count the ones in the starting zones)
mostly there is one thing in particular about all races of the horde.
regret.
orcs have a dark past, being puppets of the legion, sucumbing to the bloodlust, commiting horrible crimes that they deeply regret (as saurfang proves).
trolls also have a dark heritage, cannibalism and voodoo runs deep in the troll's blood, and other than the player-based trolls, pretty much all the other tribes are insane nut-jobs who don't fret to do terrible stuff like kill the animal loas to gain power, or summon a blood-god to reap azeroth asunder.
forsaken where once part of the scourge, the war-machine that shattered the land, and brought down well over 12 nations, and while they are no longer part of it, they do have ties to a dark past, and the worst part is that some forsaken wish to cut ties to that dark past, but others embrace their dark heritage.
blood-elves, they dared to touch fel-magic and feed on it, most of them willingly giving themselves to demons, others using demons as tools, most reveling on the darker aspects of life, such as vice, greed, arrogance, and worst, they drained a being of light, treating him like an object, indeed they have a much dark past, on the sunwell they redeemed themselves, but their regret over their dark deeds remains (liandrin's speech both on sharrath and on the quel'delar chain proves that)
Tauren......... jeez I don't know...... they are the most holy race on azeroth, really if we count down the grimtotem (wich on lore are less than 2000, that's not even half of what the defias has in numbers) they pretty much have never ever ever done anything wrong to anyone, they are even holier than the draenei, they are part of the horde because I see them as the shepperds.
why shepperds? because the rest of the flock has spiritual wounds, caused by their dark past, all have something to regret, and the tauren act like spiritual brothers and guides to bring them back to the higher road.
so as you can see bro' each of these races are all part of a whole, that combines itself in a great way.-
unlike the alliance, wich has 5 races what have little to nothign in common, each culture is so vastly diferent from one another, from the night-elves worship of nature, to the draenei's worship of the light, to the dwarves worship of history and exploration, to the gnomes worship of technology and investigation to the humans who are a mix of all of the above and something else.
:S now taht is what I call something hard to identify yourself with.
I can relate more to the horde wich has a lot more in common with each of it's races than the alliance.
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Adamsm
unlike the alliance, wich has 5 races what have little to nothign in common, each culture is so vastly diferent from one another, from the night-elves worship of nature, to the draenei's worship of the light, to the dwarves worship of history and exploration, to the gnomes worship of technology and investigation to the humans who are a mix of all of the above and something else.Yeah, but they do seem to have a more common need to work together compared to the Horde, where they follow along due to a blood debt. Plus, well, no offense to the Forsaken, but the Alliance doesn't have a faction that's attempted to wipe out everyone, they seem to focus more on the darker aspects of their own cultures and deal with them before it get's to be too much.
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Rankkor
unlike the alliance, wich has 5 races what have little to nothign in common, each culture is so vastly diferent from one another, from the night-elves worship of nature, to the draenei's worship of the light, to the dwarves worship of history and exploration, to the gnomes worship of technology and investigation to the humans who are a mix of all of the above and something else.Yeah, but they do seem to have a more common need to work together compared to the Horde, where they follow along due to a blood debt. Plus, well, no offense to the Forsaken, but the Alliance doesn't have a faction that's attempted to wipe out everyone, they seem to focus more on the darker aspects of their own cultures and deal with them before it get's to be too much.
actually the horde works togheter for a common reason.
to have a land where they belong.
:P trolls lost their echo-islands and lost their "other island" wich I can't remember it's name.
Taurens had been nomads for a long time.
orcs lost their now shattered land of draenor
forsaken lost their land of lordaeron to the scourge
and blood-elves lost their lands too.
now that they have a place where they belong, they stick togheter to defend their right to live and exist.
but the Alliance doesn't have a faction that's attempted to wipe out everyone,
:P that could change with the worgen, something about them doesn't smell right (and I didn't meant that as a pun)
Post by
Adamsm
actually the horde works togheter for a common reason.
to have a land where they belong.
:P trolls lost their echo-islands and lost their "other island" wich I can't remember it's name.
Taurens had been nomads for a long time.
orcs lost their now shattered land of draenor
And the Trolls and Tauren follow Thrall because he helped to save them from their own threats; the murlocs Sea Witch and the Centaurs. That's the blood debt I was talking about.
forsaken lost their land of lordaeron to the scourge
and blood-elves lost their lands too.Eh, I don't know; it's more that Sylvanas needed the Horde to help the Forsaken hold onto the lands of Lordaeron to help them against the Scarlets and the left over Scourge. Blood Elves needed assistance as well after their leader went nuts, and left them defenseless.
now that they have a place where they belong, they stick togheter to defend their right to live and exist.Forsaken already broke that creed when they created the Blight.
but the Alliance doesn't have a faction that's attempted to wipe out everyone,
:P that could change with the worgen, something about them doesn't smell right (and I didn't meant that as a pun)I can't see it; their defending their homeland from Forsaken and uncalled for attack by Garrosh. I'm not saying they won't be a darker faction to the Alliance, but they won't hit the Forsaken level.
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