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leuitinet
OK not to get off topic here, but is it just me or has lokatum gotten way off topic. He's talking about us using blizzard in our posts, and how its bad form to use them as representation. It happens when he is challenged, and looks to change the topic. We dont put words in ur mouth. We just tell you what you've already said.
Red has, in many posts, made good points. Im not sure he could have made them any more easy to understand.
And Ive a question also. You said you love pvp in all forms. Sign of a true pvper. Than why did you say my opinion of taking your toon and doin some world pvp, was rubbish? World pvp is an option for such a well decorated player like your-self.
Tell me why you dont world pvp with any of ur toons. You said you've a pally at 60 correct? AND you've all the mats, minus the eyes, for the Rag hammer too? So why not take him into the world? Why not take him on a 'crusade' of azeroth and kill everything thats not ur faction? You get honor if they're green, right?
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RedMosquito
Lokatum lemme get this straight....
Your saying that if you turn off your xp you are no longer allowed to enter a BG? Somehow the program, code, software however you want to say it, prohibits you from doing this? Prohibits, like trying to equip plate as a clothie prohibits? If that is what you think then you are simply mistaken. If that were true I would agree with you whole heartedly, but it IS NOT the case.
There are simply not enough players willing to que for non xp bg's. Thats the simple cold hard fact, if you had more people willing to play this style of bg the game would most surely allow it.
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leuitinet
Ok Red made that even more simple lol. Can you imagine a squishy in plate?
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And Ive a question also. You said you love pvp in all forms. Sign of a true pvper. Than why did you say my opinion of taking your toon and doin some world pvp, was rubbish? World pvp is an option for such a well decorated player like your-self.
Tell me why you dont world pvp with any of ur toons. You said you've a pally at 60 correct? AND you've all the mats, minus the eyes, for the Rag hammer too? So why not take him into the world? Why not take him on a 'crusade' of azeroth and kill everything thats not ur faction? You get honor if they're green, right?
Now Im tired of being ignored. I've tried to help you with ur pvp issue. Ive stopped tryin to make a point. Just answer the questions ive asked.
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dezziedc
Well I've got a 19 twink - been playing for 4 years over all but the twink was only a recent addition (late last year just before the xp turn off). Why? Well I wanted to see what the hype was about and because I was sick of getting roflstomped in every BG I went into when I was levelling one of my toons. I didn't do it to focus on rolling over other toons - but at least to stand a chance against a large portion of other toons in BGs. Never got to play it long enough to get any real feel for whether it was fun or not. I don't miss it - she just sits there. Might level her one day.
So now I am levelling another toon to focus on PvP - I spend the first 1/2 of the bracket doing dungeons and question and the second 1/2 in the BGs. I must say it is much more enjoyable. However there are still twinked toons in there - when I was in the 19 and 29 brackets there were still hunters roflstomping everything with heath 2x or 3x everyone else. They are still there but much much less in numbers and you at least know that when they hit the next bracket they have to build a little more and don't have the immediate advantage.
the only downside I am seeing is that you can't spend enough time in the BGs to get all the gear you want from badges/honor. You level too fast these days to allow you to get enough honor in the 59, 69 brackets to get much of the epics available to you at those levels. Especially if you are buying some along the way as well (lower level).
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RedMosquito
How many times will you keep saying your interpretation of the patch notes. They clearly state BG's provide experience. If the experience is gain is turned OFF. Then BG's cannot be entered. I was told this specifically by a GM on Frostmane.
Nobody can enter which is precisely why they arent available. After 64 hours of personally queuing with none opening in that time. Do you not think if more then 5 people at some point had this gain turned off it might have opened? Instead of none being available. This is exactly what the message reads when you queue for a BG with experience removed?
If anybody tries to queue and waits until a BG can be entered. Then quickly turns their experience OFF. They will get a red error which reads the same as the patch notes, and they will be removed from the queue. There nothing in the patch notes to say people can enter BG's with the experience turned OFF instead they say BG's provide experience. So you have made an absolute assumption in saying people can join them with thier experience enabler turned OFF. Please provide cold hard evidence of this. Until you can prove to this forum and every toon out their they can join BG's you continue to bore us with your toliet talk. There 0 BG's available turn the experience gain on we see all kinds of BG's and queuing times etc etc
You have taken some words I have said used them totally out of context putting your own interpretations to them. This is to smear and if you are sitting at a toliet what are you doing Irishandawesome?
Okay I get where your coming from now, a state of complete delusion. You are totally wrong, the irishman already proved this by posting the official patch notes. Im sure you didnt bother to read them however so go ahead and make another outrageous and completely false statement.
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RedMosquito
We do agree on one thing, there is very little pvp in battleground form available to the twinks who remain. I disagree with you as far as the reason for this situation but i do agree that it sucks for certain players.
If Blizzard sees that most battlegroups are not generating any non xp bg's maybe they will do something about it. I think it would be fair of them to advertise and offer free transfers to one specific battlegroup. They could nominate one group as the official place for twinks. Not sure what would become of your main(or 80 cash cow i should say) but you can always level a DK for some relatively quick cash if needed.
I have seen threads on the blizz forums with twinks trying to decide what battlegroup they should be transferring to so they can continue to play, but its not free and its impossible to coordinate such a thing without the help of blizzard. One other small thing, the 10 gold fee should be removed, Twinks surely have the gold, but i still dont see why the switch should require a fee.
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I am not disputing that twinking can be fun, I have made a couple my self. I actually enjoy pvp at the lower end of the spectrum due to its simplicity. I also like the fact that its not a huge time investment to get a twinked character up and running. I was simply trying to make Lokatum understand that it is not a function of the game to ban people from participating in BG's once they turn their xp off. He was mistaken do to some misinformation and possibly a boneheaded statement by a GM on frostmourne. I think he has come to realize that the game does indeed provide a setting for all pvpers that have turned off their experience.
You are correct in that there are too few twinks spread out amongst multiple brackets for this to work as intended. It is unfortunate that this is the case but Blizzard cant make more players roll twinks, the community is what it is and under the current format its hard to get into BG's. I dont know what the solution is but I did offer an idea in my previous post. I dont however think taking away the xp gain from the vast majority of users who now enjoy that feature is the right move, because that would only please the twinks who are not numerous and enrage the bg levelers who are numerous. So what is your solution wrathdivine?
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