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Ahh, that quote you gave me changes everything.
It says that peace and equality is given once you give upHeh... You could say the same thing about Scourge...
Equality and all that...
The problem is that no one has any good reason to think Worgen are evil other then thier furious look... Which would make taruen evil.Well, there's Genn, for one, who so far has been, not evil, but certainly aggressive and questionable in his methods.
I'm not saying they are evil. I'm saying they very well could be dark like the Forsaken. We don't know yet, either way.
If they were to develop a "evil" streak by hunting the Forsaken, then that does not make them bad guys for fighting bad guys.Indeed, but the Forsaken didn't stop at the Scarlet Crusade, did they?
Who's to say that the Gilneans wouldn't be just as ruthless against those among the Horde who aren't evil?
Yeah, I have read those books. Sylvanas is not worth being called a hero of the second war because she only fought in one fight, and it was on her own land. If she actually moved with the rest of the army, she could be. Like Alleria.She definitely fought in more than one fight, and you can't really blame her for staying in her own land. The elves hardly sent any aid to the Alliance at first, and it was Alleria's own initiative that made her go.
And considering Sylvanas was in a higher position than Alleria, I'd give her more credit than you are.
If there are any good Forsaken, then I would love to see one that does more then just abandon thier leadership show up...Trevor, for one. Never said he abandoned his leadership.
I don't recall Leonid saying anything bad about the Forsaken, either.
And then there are the civilians. Not every Forsaken is part of the RAS, goes hunting for humans, etc. Since there are logically some that do not take part in the evil things you bring up, then how are those people evil?
Confirmed in RotLK it is her fault.Ummm... No?
All it confirmed was that she knew about the Blight (duh), and that she wants revenge on the humans.
Never said that she had anything to do with the Wrathgate.
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He mistrusts the Forsaken.Can you give me a source? I read through all of his quests a while back and didn't see anything regarding the Forsaken.
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Skreeran
I believe he says so himself. When you speak to him.I'll go do that today.
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Adamsm
/sigh
And were going in circles again:
1. I don't think any of the Horde trust the Forsaken anymore, even the Blood Elves, after learning what they had been cooking up.
2. Wrathgate was RAS and the Dreadlord, not Sylvanas..... because the Dark Lady was saving her secret weapon for Icecrown Citadel more then likely.
3. The Forsaken are being watched like hawks now; we see it in 3.3, we know there is a new Orc outpost being built outside of Undercity at the orders of a Warchief (unknown if it's Garrosh or something that Thrall was going to set up).
4. Not all Forsaken are evil; just like not all humans are evil, not all Orc's are evil, etc etc.
5. Sylvanas is ape$%^& insane, not evil, but she's willingly to do things that are just as bad as the Scourge to make sure the Lich King dies.
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Currently a person could read these articles and think 'Sylvanas had nothing to do with the New Plague really" but in reality she ordered it to be made and formed the RAS herself and even oversees experiments on races with them *which isn't in the articles from what I can tell*. And though she may not wanna use it on EVERYTHING, we should stress she wants to kill the Scourge and the Humans at least.
We aren't claiming she had nothing to do with the New Plague. We are, however, claiming that she had no role in Wrathgate.
Look up the word coup, or coup d'etat. That's what Varithramas did, and used Putress for his own means.
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I belive she was classified as evil... well, Lawful evil.
But thats just a fancy word for evil.
The Scarlet Crusade is Lawful evil, and everyone here agrees they are evil.No, she's not.... she's completely insane, she lapped evil a long time ago.... she's like a mad dog now, focused sololy on revenge and her own hatreds, which, like I said, I can see that hatred being branched out to anything that did her wrong/her race wrong...... So all humans/orcs/trolls/ogres and the rest might want to start watching their backs before their the next ones she focuses on.
Currently a person could read these articles and think 'Sylvanas had nothing to do with the New Plague really" but in reality she ordered it to be made and formed the RAS herself and even oversees experiments on races with them *which isn't in the articles from what I can tell*. And though she may not wanna use it on EVERYTHING, we should stress she wants to kill the Scourge and the Humans at least.I disagree with that quote there Dark, I'm still of the opinion, had Wrathgate never occured, the Forsaken catapults would have been at the back of the lines for the Horde and alliance forces at the Citadel.... and as soon the Lich King stepped out onto the field, she would have ordered her people to fire, and damn whoever, be they alliance or horde, was on the battlefield near him.
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But Valeera is a Blood Elf.Fix'd. She is Delt heh.
I don't think so, Sylvanas doesn't seem either stupid or blind enough to sacrifice the perfect alliance against the Lich King. The average Forsaken? Perhaps.She's insane thought.... completely and totally insane. She doesn't care about anything if it means she can kill the Lich King.... Yes, he drove her to that insanity, but all he did was create his own worse enemy.
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Anyways, why is Sylvanas insane? Wouldn't she be as the average Forsaken? Has twisted moral judgement as well as being extremely cunning and calculative?After all the crap Arthas did to her, all the pain and suffering he put her through... are you telling me her mind is still all there? There's no way, she's out of her gourd big time.
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