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Cataclysm Speculation: Why Garrosh Will Be Loved and Why Greymane Will Be Hated
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Post by
Rankkor
(and by several I mean 99.99% that is repeating of course)99.99...% is 100%.
Do you disagree with 100% of what he says? :P
basic math bro' 99.99 is 0.01 away from being 100.
wich means I agree with 0.01% of what he says. (such as his comment on how cool the tabard of the scarlet crusade is, or how nice it is when a hated character does something amazing and worth of admiration, and those few points on wich we agree mutually)
Post by
Skreeran
But you said it was repeating. 99.99...% is 100%.
.9... is 1
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Post by
Rankkor
Wiki Article on .999...
In mathematics, the repeating decimal 0.999… which may also be written as or denotes a real number equal to one.
=O
I stand corrected xD ok, leave out the "that's repeating of course" part :P
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Post by
Patty
Sylvanas also kills Scarlet Crusaders, who are not only a threat to her and her allies, but to some of the Alliance as well.
Have you forgotten how paranoid the Scarlet Crusade became? They killed humans, elves and dwarves too.
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Post by
Patty
Key word: also.
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Post by
Adamsm
Also what?
They are taking innocent citizens and animals and either tearing them to shreads, or drowning them with plagues.
The Crusade isn't innocent.......
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Post by
Fathios
I haven't played WoW in months, in fact I probably won't until Cataclysm. I must say, though, that I love Cairne, and I'll be sad to see him go. If they take him out, it has to be in a final blaze of glory against a full Alliance battalion, not because a Rogue got lucky and slipped into Thunder Bluff.
I agree with the OP's idea; Blizzard's going to do something to make Garrosh more likable. I think that they should A) justify his going to war, B) humble him somewhat (maybe his hotheadedness makes the Horde lose a major battle, and he starts to be more patient and listen to his advisors), and C) just overall change his attitude. He's just an ass.
Post by
Rankkor
Sylvanas kills humans who did nothing wrong, and the next day she is about to go through some huge trial of redemption.
Sylvanas lets a innocent orc die, and suddenly she is hopless.
I rest my case.
you can't keep bringing this up, there is no way to prove those humans are inocents just as there is no way to prove they are guilty, all we know is that they are human, and that they get killed, but their background is never established.
so just as they could be "inocent" villagers, they could be scarlet crusaders, since none of us can't prove either point then none of us can wield this argument in favor or against sylvannas.
dude just drop it.
now on ICC she didn't let the orc die, she saved the strongest of the bunch (us the players) the same way jaina lets the other alliance slaves die.
what I disliked was her reaction afterwards, saying "Finnaly he shut up" was a tottal lack of respect to a hero of the horde who had just held a massive army of undead just to buy us time to defeat tyranus, we owed our victory to them.
it's not the horde way to mock the dead like that, he should had been honored. much the same way jaina lamented the death of the alliance slaves.
but for sylvannas, if the dead are not forsaken (and indeed all forsaken slaves are mages that iceblock and survive sindragosa's breath) they she simply doesn't give a damn.
I held hope that she could change, but her current actions have alienated her from me, as far as I can see she's just an ally now, I don't trust her, and most certainly know I won't count with her help should I need it.
big diference.
and for god sake LEAVE THE WHOLE "Sylvanas kills humans who did nothing wrong" crap in peace, you can't prove they are inocent, and untill you can show solid good evidence of the contrary restrain yourself from mentioning this.
those humans could just as easily be scarlets, or syndicate, or god only knows what other wretched examples of humanity such as cultists of the damned or twillight cultists.
LET-IT-GO untill lore establishes who the hell are they.
capishe?
Post by
Adamsm
/sigh
There is no stupied crusade in Hillsbrad!
Its no question they kill every human they find, but hillsbrad is the one place where you guys can't through out the "NOES, it was da scarletz" excuse.
Alright... derailing the thread here so let's cut the Scarlet/Forsaken/Hillsbrad and all the rest...... Of course you realize for most of Dark, we know that the Forsaken is evil.. so stop acting like we don't and need to be bottle fed your answers.
Post by
Patty
...Sylvanas
also
kills Scarlet Crusaders, who are not only a threat to her and her allies, but to some of the Alliance as well.
To be honest, the people we kill on the
Dangerous!
Quest are murderers or attackers. The forsaken in Hillsbrad were under Varithramas' thumb.
Proof.
We all know what Varithramas' loyalty was like....
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451455
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Post by
Adamsm
Dark.. give it a rest........
Post by
Rankkor
you know, this whole debate about sylvannas started just because I compared her to genn, and darkton wanted to deviate the subject.
let's get back to the subject.
regardless if sylvannas killed inocent humans or not, regardless if she's an evil hag or not, regardless of everything and anything, she is dark, she is evil, she is a good leader to the forsaken, she cares for her people, and acts in their best interest, they love their queen, their devotion it's absolute and total, while all races love their leader, none love them as hard as the forsaken love their dark lady.
so even when she's quite nice to other forsaken, and does what's best to the forsaken, she's still an evil hag.
genn greymane may be nice to worgen players, he may be nice to gilnean citizens, he may be cool to them, and be a good king, but that does not and cannot prevent him from being a tottal ass to the rest of the world.
he's allready established as a major ass in every scrap of lore to be found in-game and on books.
he even had the nerve to try to kill Daelin on a peace meeting on the royal hall of lordaeron during a council summoned by terenas himself.
when both daelin and genn remembered that they had no weapons (prior to the meeting all were disarmed) they prepared to go toe-to-toe in a fist fight that the royal guards had to break apart.
he is NOT a good goy, he is NOT a nice guy, and he is NOT inocent untill proven otherwise because he's done nothing that shows he's inocent.
quite the oposite, since all we know of him is the ass part, then his status is ass till proven otherwise.
garrosh=ass till proven otherwise.
Sylvannas=hag till proven otherwise.
ye catch me drift? o_O
Post by
Rankkor
You guys are the ones who need to drop it.
Seeing as how she admitted that Sylvanas wants to eliminate the Humanity, not to mentio the corpses seen in The Battle for Undercity, were apperently, Alliance citizens, I would say they take a huge slap at them the most.
And no, enough with this "She meant no harm, those were Putress' and Varimathris' guys" crap. In RotLK, Sylvanas is telling the apothecarys to work harder and faster, and takes a deep satisfaction from every test that passes. She even goes hyiscrical laughing when the humans die.
and your point is........ what?
this whole thing started when I compared her to genn.
she IS evil, and a lot, not like "a bit" meanie, she IS a leathery hag (a banging hot leathery hag BTW) but she is not mean to her people.
she cares for the forsaken.
the reason I listed her as an example was because of this line of yours.
"genn was nice to the worgen players so that's a hint that he can be a good guy"
news flash, sylvannas is nice to her own people, and that doesn't stop her from acting like a jerk.
genn may be nice to his own peeps, but that won't stop him from acting like the royal pain in the ass we all know.
no lore, anywhere stablishes genn as a nice person.
all lore point him as a hateable man.
and untill proven otherwise he IS a total jerk, where is my lore? humm how about every book that has mentioned his name? but mainly Day of the Dragon?
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