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On Conjuring Water: To charge or not to charge?
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Post by
Zarra
Lazy no, @#$%s yes. We have to accept that some people enjoy being ^&*!@#$s just to get on your bad side. I don't get it but it happens.
Personally i ve never charged for food and i give biscuits to anyone who asks, just as long as they take the time to write something to me, like: could i have some food please m8? If they come at me and /w food mage then i just move on. Unless you are roleplaying the obnoxious mage that likes to be rude to people even if they are polite, i don't see why a cast that costs you some mana is something you want to profit from. Obviously you re gonna be handing out food every 10secs that s not cool.
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Post by
arissa
In guild raids or while doing hc's I always set up a table and a portal at the end of the instance/when needed. For free, obviously.
In cities however, it's a different thing. For me it depends on how the person approaches me. If I get a random "portal plz" I tend to ignore them or charge them a fee. If they're kind and/or low level, I open a portal for free. People often give me a tip without me asking for it, I accept it and I'm fine with that. Often between 5 and 10g.
Never thought of charging for food. It costs me nothing, and I don't get whispers asking for it often. It doesn't hurt you to be nice every now and again, even at the loss of... *gasp* 25 to 50? silver. Actually, I had no idea some people charge for their strudels until I found this... quite amusing I must say. How does that 50 silver help you along the way?
Post by
Squishalot
How does that 50 silver help you along the way?
It saves you time in future by discouraging people from begging for food half way across the world.
Post by
Goyoma
What I never understand is how the hell these people manage to get my name when I'm half way across the world...
Also, I sold my first portal the other day for 5g. The guy offered it. I'm leveling up my professions right now, so I'll take anything I can get. At least offer the price of the reagant though.
I've never been asked for food, except for a table in BG's. If I have the powder I'll do it, and if I don't than I obviously can't.
I've been called an ass for running out of arcane powder though. Those people are #$%^tards.
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Post by
Skyfire
This is the stupidest topic on on here...here is my answer.
DO NOT CHARGE, YOU GREEDY A*HOLE.
The very fact that you feel the need to get paid for such a simple and inconsequential act is fueled by one thing, greed. Greed has been the downfall of society's since the beginning. All you are doing is continuing the trend of what i like to call, "an inconsiderate a*hole." Now everything is relative, you can do whatever the f*ck you want. Just be aware that those acts of time spent conjuring and handing out food/water are not worthy of a f*cking dime. You feel
entitled
and Im sorry you feel that way. But blame the media and people around you who have molded your greedy brain into thinking that you are
OWED
for some bull%^&* act. Open your eyes and realize that the underlying tone of your post is one of the main problems with society.
Posts like this @#$% me the f*ck off because you think you are owed something. You are not. And please dont use the time=money argument. Thats the only thing you got and if you really want to use that argument, then start charging people for letting you join their groups and raids, or start charging people for whispering you, or start charging people who are standing in the way at the banks in Dalaran, or start charging people who are posting on trade chat because you took the TIME to read their post...cause as we all know....
TIME EQUALS MONEY!
Grow up and find something more constructive.
That wasn't an appropriate response.
Grow up and find something more constructive.
Post by
nerkel
blah
Sure, mock a forum moderator, see where that gets you.
Back on topic here, I've never really encountered people, outside of instance groups, who asked for water or food. Guess I'm lucky in that aspect. I have had people whisper me for portals when I was busy killing something rather tough though.
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Post by
Skyfire
That wasn't an appropriate response.
Grow up and find something more constructive.
its more than appropriate for a response because its the absolute truth when it comes to mind set of people in todays world, GAME OR NOT. it may be lewd but its the truth. im not gonna sugar coat anything for anyone. and for you to defend such social ineptness is in one word...sad. oh and the use of my ending comments to emphasize your own shows to me a hint of insecurity, correct me if im wrong but i highly doubt im wrong. I feel as if maybe you got off a little by writing that...like, "take that!" get a chubby did you?
I have no issue with what you said.
How you said it on the other hand...
Grow up and find something more constructive.
Post by
nickseng
...And please dont use the time=money argument. Thats the only thing you got and if you really want to use that argument, then start charging people for letting you join their groups and raids, or start charging people for whispering you, or start charging people who are standing in the way at the banks in Dalaran, or start charging people who are posting on trade chat because you took the TIME to read their post...cause as we all know....
TIME EQUALS MONEY!
You would probably have more people defending you IF your argument made any sense.
You have not made any logical argument why Time doesn't equal money. Instead, you twist and give examples that clearly have no relation to the argument in point. None of the example you gave inconveniences you in any way, hence, has nothing to do with your argument about time.
And you're really gonna use joining a raid as wasting your time? Because you regularly join raids that do not benefit you in anyway, whether as a character advancement in gear or socially?
Learn to make an argument, please.
Post by
nickseng
Sigh ...
You first paragraph equates charging for water as greed. While I don't necessarily agree, I have no objections to your opinion.
It's your second paragraph that I'm contending, simply because the argument makes no sense.
And please dont use the time=money argument.
This is your statement.
You follow up your statement with ...
... and if you really want to use that argument, then start charging people for letting you join their groups and raids, or start charging people for whispering you, or start charging people who are standing in the way at the banks in Dalaran, or start charging people who are posting on trade chat because you took the TIME to read their post...cause as we all know....
TIME EQUALS MONEY!
as an argument to support your statement.
Which makes no sense. You are againts Time = money, because you disagree with anything that takes up time should cost money. All well and fine, but with the exception of the raid example, none of the above takes up your time. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Post by
hashmel
/sigh this is just a child's version of
some
chanters thinking they get to walk out of an instance with everything nobody needed or alchs thinking anything that procs off someone else's mats belongs to them
if you want to charge people for every little thing and scrape as much profit off other people as possible then ok, good for you but when i'm the only person in the group able to give a certain buff i'll be sure everyone but you gets said buff then proceed to ask you for epic flight on an alt as it costs me time, mana, and maybe even a reagent
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Post by
Skyfire
Are you that dumb? Everything you do takes up time......time is continuous....YOU CANT STOP IT. And when someone does ANYTHING that interrupts what you are doing.....its stealing time from you.............................................. How do you not get that? I used stupid examples. I KNOW. THATS THE POINT....Are you going to continually nit pick every post I write because you cant comprehend what I am saying?
He's nitpicking your post because your post doesn't make sense. Don't assume that he is at fault; simply restate your case in clearer terms and without personal attacks, and everyone will be happy!
There's an underlying tone of greed in the "time=money" argument...
That's complete opinion. It's not greed to say that I could be spending my time doing things which are more productive, which is a term called "opportunity cost." This opportunity cost could possibly have me losing gold, or items, or grouping with other people... so on and so forth. Not all of these things may benefit me, but I still stand a chance to benefit from them. Is it really greed to want to progress?
Learn to read.
Learn to argue .
Quit being a "non" elitiest moron.
Quit being an idiot.
Please dont talk anymore.
nou
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Post by
Skyfire
It makes perfect sense, sorry you cant see that. Yes it went way deeper than it should in the eyes of dimwits and yes it may be childish how it was stated...but like i said, everything is relative.
It didn't make sense to someone, so logically that would make it "imperfect" sense. No?
Does the clock read "Im green and everything I write shall be golden?" time=money does not say time=opportunity cost (just get done with a business class in college im assuming?).
No, that would be economics in high school. Nice, er, ad hominem argument, though?
Key word there friend...
MONEY
. You can branch off into tangents all you want but the word that is
sooooo
clearly used is
money
...
any article or substance used as a medium of exchange, measure of wealth, or means of payment.
thats it. done. complete. end of story. word being used...money. you get it yet? or will you spin off of this too? cause it is quite enjoyable yet utterly sad to read your posts. Especially from someone with the so called authority you have. The authority to influence people because your posts are...green.
YOU WILL FEAR MAH AUTHORITAY!
...
Ok, fine, the word was "money". qq.
cmon man...you really have to act smarter by creating a silly deviation from the word
money
?
You want to answer the point or do you want to attempt to argue that it wasn't a point? Progress definitely != money.
everything is relative.
Fail logic is fail. It's like I said "the grass is green" and you said "no, it's yellow, and brown, and sometimes blue..."
cant be done
Pity.
thats not a word by the way...or is it nordic? maybe scandinavian?
"
nou
": a major form of classical Japanese musical drama that has been performed since the 14th century.
oh well. ban me already, please. this is torture knowing you are the face of tomorrow. happy trails in getting your degree :)
The personal attack scars. I don't know quite how I'm going to continue living! Also, that whole banning thing... why would I do that? Because you asked me to (that can be arranged!)...?
and before you rip me. i have mine already. sad huh? or is it................... dun dun dun.....
Thank you! I'll likely have a few more degrees than you in
slightly
more important majors, but whatever. What counts is that
I'll have a degree! Go me!
Basically, this post I made was a waste of time, considering that I a) responded to you, b) have better things to be doing, and c) responded to a terrible post (not necessarily in the order of importance).
Have a good evening, and don't be a bad boy anymore, please. Else I'll have to get my Daddy to banhammer you, and I don't like the banhammer. :(
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