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Post by
Hydralisk
Garrosh is an idiot.
Voll'jin can be better warchief,Tyrande can be better warchief...And yes Basic Campfire can be better warchief..
Though i liked idea that Nazgrel becomes one :) *yawn* Why don't you keep it in ArgentSun's thread hmmm? or was that to much to handle for you...
Post by
chase123
oh yeah personally i think it will be bettwer this way the horde will finally be what it was INTENDED to be in the first place
The bad guys?
If you believe that the Horde was meant to be the evil faction and Alliance the good faction then you obviously havent read any of the lore.
Post by
Hydralisk
oh yeah personally i think it will be bettwer this way the horde will finally be what it was INTENDED to be in the first place
The bad guys?
If you believe that the Horde was meant to be the evil faction and Alliance the good faction then you obviously havent read any of the lore. yeah the Horde are nothing but a bunch of
peaceniks
right?
Post by
taurenmoo812
oh yeah personally i think it will be bettwer this way the horde will finally be what it was INTENDED to be in the first place
The bad guys?
If you believe that the Horde was meant to be the evil faction and Alliance the good faction then you obviously havent read any of the lore. yeah the Horde are nothing but a bunch of
peaceniks
right?
omg.. your that desperate you link something from the past as if it has relevance to the horde today? That someone thinks because of the old hordes actions that they can't have redeemed themselves, despite constrast to what Alexstrasza, the argent dawn, the sha'tar and the cenarion circle say?
Why don't we just say all americans are invaders who stole the land from the native americans, and thus the evil guys.
Really.. really.. dumb.
Post by
Hydralisk
isn't that people say anyways about Americans? my point is, that was the Horde I and many others miss and if Garrosh as a leader can bring back a little bit of that blood lust, I'm game...
Post by
xaratherus
isn't that people say anyways about Americans? my point is, that was the Horde I and many others miss and if Garrosh as a leader can bring back a little bit of that blood lust, I'm game...
I'm all for it as well. That way when I'm languishing in the Azerothian afterlife I can take some small modicum of pleasure in the fact that Garrosh was responsible for the death of the Horde at the claws of Deathwing, who will wipe them out when they try to engage in major wars on two fronts at once.
Post by
CircusofValues
isn't that people say anyways about Americans? my point is, that was the Horde I and many others miss and if Garrosh as a leader can bring back a little bit of that blood lust, I'm game...
I'm all for it as well. That way when I'm languishing in the Azerothian afterlife I can take some small modicum of pleasure in the fact that Garrosh was responsible for the death of the Horde at the claws of Deathwing, who will wipe them out when they try to engage in major wars on two fronts at once.
Because assuming all the plot twists planned for patch 3.3 and beyond isn't pretentious in any way, right?
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taurenmoo812
isn't that people say anyways about Americans? my point is, that was the Horde I and many others miss and if Garrosh as a leader can bring back a little bit of that blood lust, I'm game...
I'm all for it as well. That way when I'm languishing in the Azerothian afterlife I can take some small modicum of pleasure in the fact that Garrosh was responsible for the death of the Horde at the claws of Deathwing, who will wipe them out when they try to engage in major wars on two fronts at once.
Because assuming all the plot twists planned for patch 3.3 and beyond isn't pretentious in any way, right?
This I'll certainly agree with you on
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Post by
taurenmoo812
You know, I do get fed up of every pvp mad gamer here making out that the concept of the horde is because its lead by a man like Thrall that its made the horde soft, or that having a character try to balance things out in the warring factions is somehow ruining the game.
And thats exactly it isn't it? When the lore of warcraft is ruined by the gaming aspect, where reasoning and developed lore can just be flushed down to pan to give pvpers more reason to play instead.
Yes I do like the war part of warcraft, I like coming into a battleground and blowing enemy players away, or causing them to wipe when they attack our major cities, or joining in a raid group when they attack there cities. But unlike those that only think pvp is the only aspect of this game, I actully think outside that box.
So you can pretend that Garrosh will come along and satify all your little pvp needs, since following a 2 dimensional character like him means more then the games plot.
People said it themselves, The reason Garrosh and Varian are here is because people that want the warring factions back in warcraft. That to make that happen they needed to invent two irrational characters whos only take on the lore is 'ME SMASH ME KILL', and that being there only purpose.
So, you can go back to pretending that warcraft is still some 16bit game with no developed characters and only two sides fighting each other, where as everyone who who gives a dam about the lore manages to see beyond it.
Do I detect nerdrage?
Coming from you I don't even need to acknowledge that.
btw, thank you again Adam for killing of king Chin and Garrosh in your 20 years later series, good stuff.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Taurenmoo loves his horde and knows the lore and knows wtf he is talking about I am the same way with the Alliance
the Horde will have Garrosh as a dictator not as a real warchief.
we're looking at things from a few pieces of the puzzle however, I look forward to seeing Garrosh as the Horde warchief and see how blizzard plays that into lore.
I personally belive he will be dead before the end of cata and mabye somehow be a raid boss. Garrosh may be a "tougher" warchief but he is also dumb as hell. He may want the best for the Horde but I belive through-out cata's lore Garrosh's intensions will change, or he might find a shard of the demon soul and....
Or he might go to such extremes that he becomes a grave threat to the horde and alliance and must be slain.
ps. can I get a link to this Thrall and Cairne pic everyone seems to be talking about (Something about saving kids from a fire or something)
I agree with you totally. As it now stands with true horde fans (given a very small few exceptions) Nobody on the horde side likes Garrosh or what he plans to do. For all peoples stance on saying Thrall wasn't a typical orcish leader, it was his uniqueness that won out and saved his people.. now something Garrosh is doomed to repeat like his father did.
As for that picture:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/6/67/Thrall_&_Cairne_saving_babies.jpg
Now thats a hero ^
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Post by
CircusofValues
Umm...
Yeah
, you
do
need to acknowledge that.
All you ever do is ignore the question, or change the subject.
Seriously, if you can not post anything decent, or nice, or helpful, then just stfu and get off the internet.
Everyday its the same thing with you,
You: "Omgz, Varian n' garrosh are so's stuoopied, any 1 who says other wise iz wrongy!"
Someone Else: "But... I like Garrosh/Varian..."
You: "ZOMG! Yours a totalz stoopied! Garroh and varin totalye suck, they are so stoopied, i hate thems, i wanttodestroyanyonewnolikesthem, you are a troll just for not seeing that!
And then suddenly you can not back up the fight you started.
Well put.
And Tauren, I've been playing horde for 4 years now. Don't even TRY to say that I'm not a "true Horde fan" simply because I like somebody you don't. Because it just makes you sound like an oblivious idiot who wants everyone to think and believe exactly what he wants.
Post by
skumbananer
Lore aside. Lets face it, Thrall is a Hippie. The Tauren excepts for Grimtotem Clan are a bunch of Hippies too. With Thrall running the Horde, the whole Horde has been transformed from a once mighty imperialistic fantastic warmachine to some Greenpeace activists. When the Orcs first entered through the Black Portal, you think the Trolls would have joined forces with them if they knew that they would turn into pansies? I dont hink so.
I am keeping my thumbs for a questline in Cataclysm where we go assassinate Thrall when he tries to take back leadership.
Post by
Adamsm
When the Orcs first entered through the Black Portal, you think the Trolls would have joined forces with them if they knew that they would turn into pansies? I dont hink so.Yeah, and when the Orc's failed to destroy the High Elves in the Second War the Amani said "Screw you guys, were going home."
Darkspear trolls are not the Amani Trolls.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Umm...
Yeah
, you
do
need to acknowledge that.
All you ever do is ignore the question, or change the subject.
Seriously, if you can not post anything decent, or nice, or helpful, then just stfu and get off the internet.
Everyday its the same thing with you,
You: "Omgz, Varian n' garrosh are so's stuoopied, any 1 who says other wise iz wrongy!"
Someone Else: "But... I like Garrosh/Varian..."
You: "ZOMG! Yours a totalz stoopied! Garroh and varin totalye suck, they are so stoopied, i hate thems, i wanttodestroyanyonewnolikesthem, you are a troll just for not seeing that!
And then suddenly you can not back up the fight you started.
Well put.
And Tauren, I've been playing horde for 4 years now. Don't even TRY to say that I'm not a "true Horde fan" simply because I like somebody you don't. Because it just makes you sound like an oblivious idiot who wants everyone to think and believe exactly what he wants.
You know I expected as much from Darkton, given anything anyone says to counter his Varian loving is seen as a threat, so he's now resulted to even saying 'omg stfu get off the internetz', but I kinda expected something else from you.
I too have been playing horde for a long time. Anyone who thinks that horde is somehow weak because there leader isn't so insane warmonger prick with a clueless sense of self self honor, then I find it hard pushed to see there statement of being 'true horde fans' seriously.
Lets put it this way. If in cataclysm Garrosh does something so reprehensibility stupid, that he dams the horde to be just like it was in the past, the 'dark horde' ideology, and you support him in his actions, then I won't even count you as a true horde fan. And when we have to kill him because of his actions, where will be your belief that he is somehow good for the horde then?
Really, anyone who says that the Horde as it is now with Thrall leading them are a group of pansies or hippies and no sense of honor or pride, then frankly I think you've been living under a rock for most of it. And anyone who assumes Garrosh can make the horde 'stronger'... how exactly can he make them stronger, by being so ruthless and unforgiving that they lose all sense of honor?
You can take your Garrosh loving with Darks Varian loving and jump in deepholm for all I care, cause of now you've got more to prove as a horde fan then just saying 'Oh I like Thrall but..'
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