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okey.Let me say it once.
ROGUES
ARE
NOT
OP
They can OP if they use ALL their cd's against one target as it's a cd depended class.BUT if any rogue does that then he is dead meat for 5-6 minutes.
I agree that Rogues are not OP, but what cooldowns last 5-6 minutes? lol. If we blow all of our cooldowns, we don't have much for 3 minutes really. The only cooldown longer than 3 minutes I can think if is
Preparation
, and that can be 5 minutes with 2 points in
Filthy Tricks
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They can OP if they use ALL their cd's against one target as it's a cd depended class.BUT if any rogue does that then he is dead meat for 5-6 minutes.
So yeah, I don't know where 5-6 minutes comes in, which cooldowns you're referring to. Perhaps you could clarify? If we blow all our cooldowns, we're screwed for 3 minutes, not 5-6.
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DeathBlood
go play a lock.....i am not saying rogues are OP,i am saying that locks are UP when fighting rogues.
As others have pointed out, Rogues are supposed to beat Locks. It's their counter class. Rock, paper, scissors. Class balance.
And because rock is beating scissors, it's not a valid or logical reason that rock is OP, the topic of this thread.
go play a lock.....i am not saying rogues are OP,i am saying that locks are UP when fighting rogues.
...so your class is the only class that considers it "trivial" to down a prot holy pali over 30k hp...and your concerned ONE class beats you in the order of 50/50...
So as spcmack points out, if Rogues are only beating Locks 50% of the time, isn't that evidence that either Rogues are underpowered or Locks are overpowered? If Rogues are supposed to counter Locks, Rock beat Scissors, then they should be winning more than 50% of the time.
Which again is more proof against the original poster's ignorance. Rogues are actually underpowered now.
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DeathBlood
Wow. Retard. It's not wirthout reason shamans are number 1 at most played in arena (top 100). You actually claim rogues suck at surviving? What happens with the stun locks, tons of cc and incredible defensive cd's like cloak of shadows.
I know atleast that Warlocks have way less survivability than rogues
.
Hahahahahahah
Yep locks sure dont have any survivability but lets just ignore their 31% physical damage mitigation with glyphed soul link and molten armor talent. Yep lets just forget about nether protection too (61% total spell mitigation) or 9k sacrifice from their voidwalker.
Or the fact warlocks generally just have more health than rogues in pvp gear and how they have nearly the same armor when demon armor is used. There is a reason why rogues are targeted first 95% of the time in any 3v3 match and why that warlock with 26k health and the most mitigation out of any other class is generally left to be cced or only targeted to stop him casting as he can 3 shot people.
Also where is this tonnes of CC that you claim rogues have? I cant really find much in my rogues spellbook except for a 2 min cd blind or sap which good teams wont even let me do half the time.
Looks like its pretty clear who the retard is.
Epic win. Warlocks have more suvivability.
Zephiryth is right though that we have nice defensive cooldowns, but to explain: after they're gone, we get pwned easily. And even using all of our active abilities isn't that much better than all of the Warlock's passive ones, as mentioned already.
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Wait what...locks QQing what a surprise....anyone who says they die in 2 GCD's is full of BS, unless your in greens or freshly dinged 80 theres no way!
or a rogue caught in the open...LAWL
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