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nerkel
Death Knights
* Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle: There is now a 1-handed version of this rune in addition to the current 2-handed rune.
* Talents
o Unholy
+ Night of the Dead: Now reduces the damage your pet takes from area-of-effect damage by 45/90%, but no longer applies to area-of-effect damage caused by other players.
Stoneskin, on one handers.
Does this finally make DW Tanking 100% viable?
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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
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Naxxos
It's funny, because just yesterday I recall someone saying "there will NEVER be a 1h version on stoneskin gargoyle". Funny how that works out. Whoever said that can eat some crow now.
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Post by
nerkel
Stoneskin, on one handers.
Does this finally make DW Tanking 100% viable?
It already is viable, and it works well. This will just make it easier to itemize.
Well ,forgive me here, I haven't been able to keep up on the threads, but I'm being told that you need slow 1H's, and I could've sworn I saw a post somewhere else stating you needed DPS weapons, since tanking 1H's were too fast?
I forget, if fast 1H's work, I'll start rolling on Peacekeeper blades.
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Eleazer
This is what you call the end of 2h frost sigh. I had already switched to 2h blood tanking, but this just makes me sad.
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Nystali
In the past I've not really understood the whining about blizzard caving to certain groups. Biggest example I can think of was them fixing certain holiday achievements (valentine candy).
Now I understand. I'll be honest, when I first thought of the DK I was going to roll, it was going to be a frost dual wielder. I eventually changed that mind set because the design wasn't behind it and I grew to like the idea of just destroying things with a two handed weapon while tanking.
Now they're turning my chosen tree into the Dual Wield tree and I'm not liking it at all. I don't want to go blood because I rather like HB for generating aoe threat and I think unholy has been severely gimped (I don't know the last time I saw an unholy tank, maybe before 3.1). I've come close to turning my dps spec into blood because I want to stick with a 2hander, but I'm being stubborn and staying 2h frost even though it lags behind the other specs. I could have sworn that's what blizzard wanted to avoid happening.
Its not really my hope, but I can almost see a DW nerf coming soon, especially when tanks can actually use two slow one handers with the new glyph.
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Nystali
DW Frost is amazing, and it was clearly intended that DW was viable based on the NoCS that was present from the beginning. If you don't like it, there are two other trees for you to choose from that are both 2h viable, and both tank and dps viable.
I didn't dispute DW Frost is amazing. And yes NoCS was in the frost tree from the beginning, that is why I originally thought about DW tanking before 3.0. But blizzard has always stated that they wanted DKs to tank with 2handers and were leary about the same course of action that occurred with enh shaman because DW scaled so much better than using a 2hander.
And duh, I can choose blood, but
like I wrote and you obviously didn't read
, frost is the spec I like the most for various reasons. While 2h frost builds are still usuable, its disturbing to me that they're making DW frost more and more powerful. Its a trend that I am not liking as it could just be blizzard giving up, as they did with enh shaman, and saying, "We didn't intend DW to be so powerful but we can't avoid it and so we're just not going to try making 2h frost viable any longer."
Edit: Just for any other people who want to flame without actually reading everything. 2H Frost Tanking is not dead currently, and will not be dead in the 3.3 even with these current changes. I'm commenting on the trend with the changes to the frost tree.
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Nystali
I think that was a quick copy a paste. I agree with Sam its either going to be changed to 12 defense skill or maybe 25 defense rating (seems kinda low).
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Aris
2H frost is now dead.
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