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Post by
Adamsm
Soooooooooo after reading Chronicle volume 2? Rise of the Horde is no longer completely canon, The First Guardian isn't completely canon, Tides of War/Beyond the Dark Portal are no longer completely canon....in short pretty much everything we thought we knew about the Draenor War, First and Second Wars and the Destruction of Draenor isn't canon any longer.
Also, Draenor was the work of one Titan, Aggramar who didn't find a World Soul but figured he'd save the world from the Everbloom that was eating it for some reason. And he perished before he could complete it.
Post by
Rankkor
So blizzard posted a short story that explains why Nathanos has a new model as of Legion and no longer looks like a Forsaken.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/story/short-story/dark-mirror
Its really good, I liked it, and recommend it. And damn it blizzard, why wont you hook Nathanos and Sylvanas already? >_> The two CLEARLY need to get a room.
I particularly liked this bit of dialog near the end, between Nathanos and one of the Dark Rangers of Sylvanas, when she hinted that his queen had different motives to "enhance" him. He claimed she only did it because she needed a stronger champion. Her retort:
"Sylvanas defied her kingdom to name you ranger lord. She scoured the Plaguelands to reclaim you from the Scourge. And today she drew upon her most precious resource to restore your strength. Think upon these things, Blightcaller, and tell me how someone so cunning can be blind to the simplest of truths."
ma-ma-MA-
MAXIMUM SASS!!!!!!!!!!
Post by
morginar
I think they got into a room, it was implied in the start with the, damn the others, I'll stay the night, and the brush up on each other but kid came and and brush when kid left.
And it seems to be that Nathanos had a heart for Sylvanas in life, but only duty or something of that effect in unlife.
But in my honest to asgods opinion. I don't want another Windrunner with a human (peasant even?). We have two of those, don't need all three.
Post by
Rankkor
I think they got into a room, it was implied in the start with the, damn the others, I'll stay the night, and the brush up on each other but kid came and and brush when kid left.
And it seems to be that Nathanos had a heart for Sylvanas in life, but only duty or something of that effect in unlife.
But in my honest to asgods opinion. I don't want another Windrunner with a human (peasant even?). We have two of those, don't need all three.
Given the comment that the Dark Ranger made to Nathanos, I don't think they've ever confessed their feelings for one another, let alone acted on them.
Post by
morginar
It's possible, it seems only implied (in life). But if it is as you say I can live with that.
Though something I noticed, it mentions the short story from cata, yet the life section contradict it. The cata story rewrote her character background. But it seems to fit more into the others works around her. Someone warmer, and cares for those around her more than arrows in a quiver. The worst part about that short story.
Post by
Rankkor
Though something I noticed, it mentions the short story from cata, yet the life section contradict it. The cata story rewrote her character background. But it seems to fit more into the others works around her. Someone warmer, and cares for those around her more than arrows in a quiver. The worst part about that short story.
There's no reason it can't be both.
She can see common troops as arrows in a quiver, but still be fond of specific individuals that mean a great deal to her. We've seen so far that she has a huge level of affection for her sisters, so its not that unlikely that she'd have the same level of affection for a crush of hers.
Post by
oneforthemoney
I'm starting to wonder if there's a deficiency in elven males, considering how many of them go looking for love in all the other places.
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Post by
Atik
I'm starting to wonder if there's a deficiency in elven males, considering how many of them go looking for love in all the other places.
When your poster boys are Kael'Thas and Lortheremar you have problems.
Kael'Thas puns. Violently. While exploding people.
But he's sooo overpowered. He and Sylvanas could make beautiful, disgustingly overpowered babies together.
Structure-disabling high-burst mage babies with hilariously over-the-top ultimates.
Post by
oneforthemoney
When your poster boys are Kael'Thas and Lortheremar you have problems.
And even Kael'Thas was after some of that hot human ass. I wonder if part of what drove Jaina to being so terrible was because every guy after her turned into a violent, genocidal sociopath?
Maybe it's her...
Post by
Rankkor
Maybe it's her...
Its totally her.
Its why I'm so afraid for poor Kalec. He deserves better.
Post by
Adamsm
Kalec has already done the evil thing in Sunwell...so hopefully he'll break free of that god awful romance plot tumour and go back to being himself.
Post by
morginar
And the genetic tumor in the windrunner family.
Post by
Adamsm
Alleria and Turalyon was fine; they were both broken by the war and actually took comfort from each other and you saw their feeling for each other grow.
Vereesa and Rhonin was not world shattering, but it also had some growth...it was just off screen between Day and the birth of the twins during the present times of War of the Ancients.
Sylvanas and Nathanos was referenced before now; the new fic though makes it incredibly squicky cause you know...corpses.
I still think it's funny people @#$%^ about Knaak's writing, but no one seemed to have that much of an issue with Kael becoming pedophilic in regards to Jaina :P
Post by
morginar
Yea,on it's own I can deal with Alleria and Turalyon. Chliche, but fine.
Veressa, no. It was also poorly written from the start, the only chemistry in dawn was they though eachother hot but unbearable in personality more or less. and Rhonin just flexed his mana.
Sylvanas and Nathanos, hell no. We have more elven ladies in lore with humans, than with elves. And now three out of three windrunner have a fling for humans.
Kael seems to have a thing for Sylvanas though, might be Jaina is just a substitue.
Post by
Adamsm
Kael seems to have a thing for Sylvanas though, might be Jaina is just a substitue.
Not in Rise of the Lich King, where Golden turned him pedophiliac; there was no mention of Sylvanas and it was about how hot Kael was for the 16 year old Jaina.
Post by
Stabhorn
I've had an epiphany!
Anybody think a certain Zandalari priest might step in and take control of the Darkspear now that Vol'jin is gone?
Post by
oneforthemoney
Probably not. Would be interesting but I think Blizz feels they've played the traitorous faction card enough for the Horde.
Post by
Stabhorn
Fair point. As long as Blizz doesn't forget Zul and his ilk, I'll be satisfied. (They might do a combo South Seas/Zandalar/Azshara expansion to wrap all those loose ends up before we leave Azeroth behind).
Post by
Adamsm
I also can't see the Zandalari wanting to take over the group that defied them....completely wiping them out as punishment for Vol'jin's actions during Mists definitely, but not take over them. And of course, I can't see the Darkspear listening to Zul anyway; why would they take in a known treacherous xenophobic attempted world domination villain as their leader?
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