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Post by
Adamsm
You know, I wonder if the Podlings are meant to be the creatures that came before the Sporelings/Sporeggar....and if so, that's a little horrifying knowing that my fungal buddies used to be blood thirsty cannibals.
Post by
Rankkor
It's a little horrifying knowing that my fungal buddies used to be blood thirsty cannibals.
But...... they're cuter now.
Post by
Nulgar
Nah, Sporelings are rather fungal Murlocs - we've only seen them in Zangar Marsh, previously the Zangar Sea.
And they're funguys (haha) but not plants, which the Podlings appear to be.
Post by
Adamsm
They'd still fall under the Primals though...but then again, you see Podlings attacking a Fungal Giant, trying to eat them. If they are the pre-Sporeling's, guess that goes full circle: Podling eat Giant, Giant eats Sporeling.
Post by
cephadex
They'd still fall under the Primals though...but then again, you see Podlings attacking a Fungal Giant, trying to eat them. If they are the pre-Sporeling's, guess that goes full circle: Podling eat Giant, Giant eats Sporeling.
fungal species could not arise from plants any more than animals could arise from plants. If you want to go with the fictitious classification of
primals
, that would be something like mammals arising from reptiles (they didn't; they just share the same common ancestor).
Post by
Atik
Have sporelings ever actually been stated to be fungi? Their appearance might be misleading.
And I thought there was an NPC somewhere who confirmed such an evolutionary theory.
Post by
morginar
Have sporelings ever actually been stated to be fungi? Their appearance might be misleading. The ones in Zangarmarsh give the idea that they are shrooms. From birth to their society.
And I thought there was an NPC somewhere who confirmed such an evolutionary theory.
There was a podling npc in Shadowmoon who had a 3D vision of a Sporeling. *shrugs*
It might be that there is a civilization at the bottom of Zangar sea filled with Sporelings that ride Fungi whales. Might be that it's the Podlings who evolved from Sporelings by Botani plant zombie magic we see them use on orcs.
Post by
H3Knuckles
They'd still fall under the Primals though...but then again, you see Podlings attacking a Fungal Giant, trying to eat them. If they are the pre-Sporeling's, guess that goes full circle: Podling eat Giant, Giant eats Sporeling.
fungal species could not arise from plants any more than animals could arise from plants. If you want to go with the fictitious classification of
primals
, that would be something like mammals arising from reptiles (they didn't; they just share the same common ancestor).
Just like it'd be impossible for
flesh and blood
mammals
to arise from
metal automatons
&
stone golems
?
ETA: Also, while I'm not aware of WoW having mammals from reptiles, we do have
reptiles
arising from
mammals
.
My point is, you need to remember the setting, magic can cause all kinds of bizarre transformations, and Outland was supposedly over-saturated with bizarre arcane energies during the destruction of Draenor, hence why a lot of it has been changed into such a strange environment. I don't see any problem with the idea that some primals caught up in that might've been changed from one kingdom to another.
Post by
Rankkor
He's raising a good point. This is the same game where we drink a tiny vial of liquid in Icecrown Citadel to transform into a hulking towering undead carcass made of multiple limbs sewn together, and then morph back into normality with no ill effects.
Or where people can safely transform into bears, panthers, crows, deers, manatees, wolves, and more, and shift back into whatever they were before, again with no ill effects.
The most glaring one was the creatures of stone turning to flesh. A process that was apparently reversible and easily interchangeable as the Tol'vir showed us in Uldum. So its not really implausible to have plants turning into fungus, since they are already close enough.
Post by
morginar
A process that was apparently reversible and easily interchangeable as the Tol'vir showed us in Uldum. And ally side boring tundra. With
cybermen
mecha gnomes.
So its not really implausible to have plants turning into fungus, since they are already close enough.
And I mentioned earlier, it might be fungi turned plant with the same magic used by botani to create those green plant orcs.
Or where people can safely transform into bears, panthers, crows, deers, manatees, wolves, and more, and shift back into whatever they were before, again with no ill effects.*Looks at stormrage brothers*
Post by
Septimus
Podlings do become the Sporelings.
This rare
is found near an image of a sporeling and he drops a very familiar
trinket
.
Post by
Rankkor
O_O
A wild septimus appears!
Quick, someone fetch me a pokeball!!!!
Post by
Stabhorn
*Hands Rankk the pokeball*
Careful now, these things are really rare!
Post by
matheus314
Tsc tsc, Rankk, you should always have a pokeball with you! How do you wanna catch'em all like that?
Post by
Rankkor
So...... here's a spoilered quest-text for the portion of the legendary that grants Garona:
Our campaign in Draenor has taken an unexpected turn.
With Gul'dan assuming power over the Iron Horde
, history is poised to repeat itself - our world is in more peril than ever.
Well....... that can't end well. To be honest, I'm disappointed, mainly because it means we ARE in fact fighting a rehash of a past enemy, instead of a brand new and unique enemy.
Post by
Stabhorn
So...... here's a spoilered quest-text for the portion of the legendary that grants Garona:
Our campaign in Draenor has taken an unexpected turn.
With Gul'dan assuming power over the Iron Horde
, history is poised to repeat itself - our world is in more peril than ever.
Well....... that can't end well. To be honest, I'm disappointed, mainly because it means we ARE in fact fighting a rehash of a past enemy, instead of a brand new and unique enemy.
Yeah, I knew this would happen. In reality, only Garrosh, terrible as he is, would be able to keep the Iron Horde safe from Gul'dan's ideas.
Post by
Septimus
MASSIVE SPOILERS IN LINK BELOW
https://vid.me/r3uT
So yeah, apparently this is the cinematic you get from handing in 3 elemental tablets. Very interesting imo.
Grommash doesn't drink first, Kilrogg does, and he doesn't appear to turn into the normal fel tainted orc either.
Anyway, I thought this would stir some good discussion here
Post by
Rankkor
I'm disappointed with this turn of events.
I was hoping for a fresh take, not Old Horde 2.0
But I told you so =P Grom would
NEVER
drink from the blood. The short story "Hellscream" very firmly established that he would rather die, and all orcs die with him, than willingly drink the blood. The vision he saw, was of all orcs in chains, overcome by apathy, treated as cattle by a foreign enemy. That is the only future he knows of the horde following the drinking of the blood.
So it would be completely stupid and nonsensical writing to have him drink now.
Having said that, its odd that Kil'rogg doesn't go green with red eyes after having the green Kool-Aid, and what's up with all those green spikes? He should had gone either green, or full fel orc.
Also, where is Gul'dan getting all that blood now? Mannoroth is dead, and I'm guessing one can't just use blood from a dinky weakling little demon, it has to be an archdemon to bind enough people to the legion's will. So who's blood is that?(##RESPBREAK##)520##DELIM##Rankkor##DELIM##
Post by
oneforthemoney
Gul'dan did mention on the earlier Alliance quest (not sure if it did the same for horde) when you raid his village in Shadowmoon that he now has enough fel blood, and considering that the Sargeri were mostly eredar, the race that often ranks above pit lords, he may have gotten it there. It might also explain why the changes are different. Different dmeon blood, different mutations.
Alternatively, he may have harvested it from Mongrethod who he uses to distract you when they are escaping during the Auchindoun quest line, and apparently destroyed a world. Really, demons being what they are, he could have snapped one powerful enough anywhere. Or even saved Mannoroth's blood after the whole first drinking by the Horde thing didn't work out.
Post by
Adamsm
Any Pit Lord could work...
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