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Post by
morginar
Indeed you should :P
Also for the war crimes spoiler. He did summerise chapters into very short sentances. Much has been left out. Purge might have been mentioned. Sylvanas sanity might be there. Tyrande being not incompitent might be there.
Though Vereesa windrunner's brain power is not to be found.
And Anduin needs to be punched in the face. Thats a daily I'll do with plesure.
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355559
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Post by
morginar
Wasm't that Gul'dan's soul in a gem?
Post by
Rankkor
Well shoot =(
Ner'zhul is confirmed to be the final boss of the Shadowmoon Burial Grounds 5man. I was hoping he'd be a raid boss. Every one of the warlords should be a raid boss, not a 5man boss, or a quest boss.
Though, coming to think of it, out of all the 7 sha, 2 of them were dungeon bosses (Doubt and Violence) and 2 were quest bosses (Despair and Hate), with only 3 of them being raid bosses (Anger, Fear, and Pride)
So maybe I should had seen this coming.
Didn't they data mine his soul trap?
It might just be that.
Nope, confirmed by a blue dev in tweeter that not all the warlords will be raid bosses.
Wasm't that Gul'dan's soul in a gem?
Also this.
Also for the war crimes spoiler. He did summerise chapters into very short sentances. Much has been left out.
Purge might have been mentioned.
Sylvanas sanity might be there. Tyrande being not incompitent might be there.
Bet you 50 bucks it will never be mentioned again in the entire franchise. Just swept under the rug, never to be talked about in any point of the future. You can, however, expect that the destruction of theramoore will continue to be brought up forever and ever and ever and ever. Because when crap like Taurajo, or the Purge of Dalaran happen, they're quickly forgotten and never brought up again. But theramoore? One must forever "Remember Theramoore."
And Anduin needs to be punched in the face. Thats a daily I'll do with plesure.
As much as I like the kid, I must agree. In War Crimes, he went from "Idealist pacifist" to "Too dumb to live".
Post by
morginar
Bet you 50 bucks it will never be mentioned again in the entire franchise. Just swept under the rug, never to be talked about in any point of the future. You can, however, expect that the destruction of theramoore will continue to be brought up forever and ever and ever and ever. Because when crap like Taurajo, or the Purge of Dalaran happen, they're quickly forgotten and never brought up again. But theramoore? One must forever "Remember Theramoore."
Didn't they mention Taurajo in Tides?
As much as I like the kid, I must agree. In War Crimes, he went from "Idealist pacifist" to "Too dumb to live".
You like the kid? He was like a bad copy of WC3 Jaina. But he was dumber, a kid and is the most powerfull priest...
I wished for his demise in 5.0 and I hoped that garrosh did kill him...
Post by
Rankkor
Didn't they mention Taurajo in Tides?
If by "mention" you mean "handwave it as if it was not a big deal BY HORDE LEADERS" then yes. The only time Taurajo is brought up, and the best they have to say about that is "meh, the alliance was right to attack it" but hey, theramoore had as many reasons to be attacked as taurajo, and yet every time its brought up, its treated like the most monstrous act ever. Even though little to no civilians died, as the whole city was evacuated days before the attack. Unlike taurajo which was attacked in the middle of the night while most of the military was away and only civilians were left in town to die in droves.
And then taurajo has never been mentioned again. Ever. Neither in books, nor dialogs. Theramoore however keeps and keeps and keeps getting mentioned over and over and over again.
You like the kid? He was like a bad copy of WC3 Jaina. But he was dumber, a kid and is the most powerfull priest...
Not quite. He was a pretty awesome "Badass Pacifist" on the comics and delivered a fantastic speech to shut up garrosh with only logic and reasoning, rather than sink to his own level. He was also truly awesome during the Shattering, and from what I was able to read in the Wolfheart summary in wowpedia, he was also great in there.
Sadly, he was then victim of
Flanderization
.
Basically, that's when a single trait, or action of a character is exaggerated more and more as a work goes on. Pacifism was part of anduin's character a few years ago. Today, Pacifism is ALL of anduin's character. Often beyond what a sane, or at least rational person should have.
I wish I could say he was the only character Flanderized in warcraft, but that'd be a big lie.
Also, Anduin is not the most powerful priest. He has some pretty stiff competition there with Velen, Tyrande, and a few others.
(BTW: Interesting trivia, the name flanderization comes from the simpsons character Ned Flanders, who when he was introduced to the show, was a mildly religious fellow, but today is an insane evangelical zealot that developed an unhealthy and disturbing obsession with his religion)
Post by
morginar
I wish I could say he was the only character Flanderized in warcraft, but that'd be a big lie.
Hmmm, what other do you think of?
And then taurajo has never been mentioned again. Ever. Neither in books, nor dialogs. Theramoore however keeps and keeps and keeps getting mentioned over and over and over again.Tierd of hering that too. Evry single alliance NPC in MoP screams about it. Whilst horde npc only has "For the horde"
Also, Anduin is not the most powerful priest. He has some pretty stiff competition there with Velen, Tyrande, and a few others.
Say that to hearthstone. Then again they tried to shoehorn as many human/orc characters they could.
And one of the things I disliked about him was him runing of all the time. People died looking for him. And he just shruggs it of with "Gotta find vale"
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Post by
Adamsm
And one of the things I disliked about him was him runing of all the time. People died looking for him. And he just shruggs it of with "Gotta find vale"
And those people wanted to drag him back off to Stormwind to put him on house lock down again, even though he was showing that he could at least watch over himself. It would have been better to just deputize him as the Ambassador to Pandaria he became anyways; without Anduin, the Alliance wouldn't have been able to do 90% of what they were able to do in Pandaria.
Post by
morginar
Honestly, actually, that one made sense. The Vale WAS important, and if the stories had proven true, it would have actually paid off.Still. Runing of onto unknown soil with no security. Not to mention being the one and only prince of stormwind. When anduin dies then it's the end of a line for House Wrynn.
without Anduin, the Alliance wouldn't have been able to do 90% of what they were able to do in Pandaria.
Harvesting resources and exploration whilst looking morally good?
Post by
Adamsm
without Anduin, the Alliance wouldn't have been able to do 90% of what they were able to do in Pandaria.
Harvesting resources and exploration whilst looking morally good?
Gaining alliances with the native races and working along side them to show that not every 'invader' is full of hatred...just 90% on both sides is all.
Post by
morginar
without Anduin, the Alliance wouldn't have been able to do 90% of what they were able to do in Pandaria.
Harvesting resources and exploration whilst looking morally good?
Gaining alliances with the native races and working along side them to show that not every 'invader' is full of hatred...just 90% on both sides is all.
A blue Dezco? That shouldn't be hard to find one amongst the boys in blue.
Post by
Adamsm
Since most of them seem more intent on fighting a war then making Alliances...harder then you think.
Post by
Rankkor
A blue Dezco? That shouldn't be hard to find one amongst the boys in blue.
heh, I find this funny. I shouldn't have to explain the joke, but I'll do it anyways.
Anduin is more of a counter-part to Dezco, than Dezco's actual counter-part in Krasarang Wilds was (Sentinel something-something. She wasn't important enough to have her name memorable. For me, she was just "Animesque Chickified Night Elf Cheerleader number 27".)
Post by
morginar
*Looks at Malfurion, Moira, Knights of the silver hand, gnomes, pre-pms Jaina and Velen*
Just top of my head.
And isn't there a proffesion called ambassadors who do this work?
A blue Dezco? That shouldn't be hard to find one amongst the boys in blue.
heh, I find this funny. I shouldn't have to explain the joke, but I'll do it anyways.
Anduin is more of a counter-part to Dezco, than Dezco's actual counter-part in Krasarang Wilds was (Sentinel something-something. She wasn't important enough to have her name memorable. For me, she was just "Animesque Chickified Night Elf Cheerleader number 27".)
Indeed, she needed more savage and I think we will see more of her. She did get a short story (with maraad)
Post by
Adamsm
MalfurionBusy with neutral stuff.
MoiraUntrusted by everyone until Blood in the Snow.
Knights of the silver handAre not part of the Alliance.
gnomesAre just as rabid for the war as everyone else.
VelenBusy with Exodar things and thinking who will be fighting in the War of Light.
And like I said, they should have just made Anduin the actual ambassador, since he was already on good terms with the Tauren. Would have made a lot more sense, but then they couldn't have had the flare up with the Horde that kicked started everything.
Post by
morginar
Then a highborne? Something to counter the sunwalker. And could use a existing archmage...
And like I said, they should have just made Anduin the actual ambassador
If I can poison his food, then yes. Yes he may.
Post by
Adamsm
The actual leader of the Night Elf Wilds group was a Highborne. His daughter was a Sentinel and after he pulls off a certain action, she took over.
Post by
Monday
Bet you 50 bucks it will never be mentioned again in the entire franchise. Just swept under the rug, never to be talked about in any point of the future. You can, however, expect that the destruction of theramoore will continue to be brought up forever and ever and ever and ever. Because when crap like Taurajo, or the Purge of Dalaran happen, they're quickly forgotten and never brought up again. But theramoore? One must forever "Remember Theramoore."
But aren't those two kind of not comparable? It's like saying that the US's Japanese internment camps will never be mentioned because everyone is all caught up in Pearl Harbor. That's because buildings were destroyed and people
died
in Pearl Harbor, whereas the internment camps were bloodless. Sure, it's a terrible event, but nowhere near the magnitude of the destruction of Theramoore.
Are just as rabid for the war as everyone else.
Source?
Post by
Adamsm
Lots of gnomes in the invasion force, as well as one of the main SI7 people is a gnome.
As for the Camp...the Camp is worse then Theramore. All of Theramore's civilian population escaped the city before it exploded. Yes, the loss of Theramore was a major blow to the Alliance...but that was due to the sheer number Alliance high ranking commanders who died.
A lot of the Camp's civilians died; some to the 'criminal' conscripts and others to the Quillboar....but it is due to the Alliance hitting it and razing it to the ground.
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