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Rankkor
but no crazy conspiracy can bring it back.
Hmm, accusing others of crazy conspiracies. Then Hatches completely unfounded conspiracy that blizzard neglects the alliance and metzen puts 95% of resources into horde.
Yep. Total logic.
5.3
That is all.
edit: plus blizzard has admitted this is true, not to mention obviously apparent.
5.0, 5.1, and 5.4
That is all.
Plus blizzard has not admitted any such thing. Provide links if they have please.
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1014404
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Post by
Rankkor
but no crazy conspiracy can bring it back.
Hmm, accusing others of crazy conspiracies. Then Hatches completely unfounded conspiracy that blizzard neglects the alliance and metzen puts 95% of resources into horde.
Yep. Total logic.
5.3
That is all.
edit: plus blizzard has admitted this is true, not to mention obviously apparent.
5.0, 5.1, and 5.4
That is all.
Plus blizzard has not admitted any such thing. Provide links if they have please.
I don't recall the Alliance getting a fully developed story with lots of action and the horde getting a robot cat and grocery shopping in any of those patches.
No, you probably don't wanna remember how the alliance got to keep their badass gunship, and admiral Taylor while we lost our gunship 15 min into the expansion and General Nazgrim. Or how you get a scenario where you deliver a crushing defeat on the horde while we get a scenario were we gotta fight our own people and watch vol'jin stabbed in the neck.
Or a questline where you get to kill horde left and right in dalaran while we get tossed out of there like garbage. How about watching your capital get besieged by the enemy faction, complete with fancy title of "Conqueror of Orgrimmar" and "The Hordebreaker".
Or perhaps that the alliance WON the frikking war, and let the horde rebels live out of mercy and then rub it in.
So don't come here whining about the alliance getting shafted just because on ONE patch you didn't got to be the king of the world.
The Alliance had to stick with their militia because they were to busy writing about The Adventures of Green Jesus.
*sighs*
Again with the green jesus, even though thrall makes no appereances in 5.0, shows up only once in 2 quests in 5.1, not at all in 5.2, only once in 5.3, and almost not at all in 5.4 where he's not even restored to warchief.
meanwhile, anduin got to be front row and center across all patches.
If you wanna point fingers at obvious jesus look at thy own eye.
Varian is pretty much the chin-jesus of MoP and just as I predicted not a soul complained.
He schools a millenia old general on the most basics of troop leadership on Trial of Patience, personally leads the fight on Krasarang, unites the dwarven clans on Blood in the Snow, prevents Thrall from killing Garrosh, and basically gets to insult and verbally smack down the horde complete with rubbing it in "you are only living because we ARE LETTING YOU live, and if you misbehave we're revoking that privilege from you".
But nope, nobody complains. I guess not having green skin has its perks.
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1014404
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Rankkor
*shrug*
Whatever man. I've had this discussion one time too many with someone else, and now that he's gone, I don't feel like having it again with you.
Believe what you wish.
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morginar
*shrug*
Whatever man. I've had this discussion one time too many with someone else, and now that he's gone, I don't feel like having it again with you.
Believe what you wish.
Agree, the arguments on whom to have the best story is like two kids whining on who has the best toys.
Alliance has for example the human>>>>>>non-human problem, if you aint human you won't get lore, or worse you turn into a damsel in distres (night elf) or otherwise stupid. The quantinty of lore will ofcourse the superior in the faction that don't ignore a large portion of it's races.
Also rank you still need help with t-mog on your mage? Someone in general bumped up that ol thread.
Post by
Snake387
Thalen wasn't an archmage, he was a spy, please learn your lore before you say something like this.
Is that why Rhonin and Aethas both agreed to send him and him alone to Theramore. Against a whole load of Horde soldiers. I doubt they'd let a common mage do that.
It was the reliquary who stole the divine bell under orders of garrosh (Who threatened to kill them all if they didn't) and Fanlyr hacked into the portal network of dalaran to do so.
Really? Cause it says under affiliation that he was part of the Sunreavers.
And two questions. Firstly, what the hell are Sunreavers doing with a portal to Darnassus anyway? Secondly, I don't think it's possible to 'hack' into a portal network otherwise the Horde and Alliance would have hacked into each others portal network a long time ago. Especially since someone was able to do it against a mage organistaion.
3: Aethas is the leader of the sunreavers, and he shifted uncomfortably during a meeting. SO WHAT? I'll remind you this is the same man who voted in favor of helping the alliance when theramoore was being attacked and they asked for aid. Then he's the same man who also voted for Jaina to become leader of the Council of Six, once again breaking the draw. This is the same man who over and over expressed how his loyalty to Dalaran was higher than any warchief and that he would not endanger a 2000 year old friendship due to the whims of a warmonger. This is the same man who also tells every single horde player how he sees the horde as nothing more than a yoke on his people that they must be freed from. And this is the same man who was mediating between Silvermoon and Stormwind to MAKE THE BLOOD ELVES LEAVE THE HORDE AND JOIN THE ALLIANCE.
And then he suddenly gains an attitude and starts talking back to Jaina for no reason instead of trying to use diplomacy with Jaina? Totally characteristic behavior if he wasn't involved.
4: Malfurion is the head of the cenarion circle NOW, but that's after it was discovered that Fandral was a traitor, who backstabbed the alliance not once but twice, with the help of plenty of druids who also turned turncoat and betrayed the alliance. Why weren't they purged down to the last man?
The druids of the flame were.
Its ok to blame the entire sunreavers for the actions of ONE man, but its not ok to blame the druids for the actions of many? Its ok to blame the entire sunreavers for the actions of ONE man, but its not ok to blame the church of holy light for the actions of TWO? What sense does that makes?
The fact that the Church of the Holy Light didn't pose an immediate threat unlike the Sunreavers. Because a few hurt and imprisoned Blood Elves are nothing to how much people of the Alliance could be killed if another traitor turned out to exist and made a portal to Stormwind or another capital city and funneled thousands of Horde soldiers into the streets killing every man, woman and child. Oh, and the fact that the Church of the Holy Light weren't given and didn't blow a SECOND chance.
Wut? The high elves was exiled becouse Lorthy could not lead a divided race, and high elves was hippy on not feeding on mana wryms. Not sure when inprisonment came to play. And I belive the high elves survived due to not using any magic and feeding on dalaran. And not using magic is not a good plan when you live in the magic kingdom. And is assulted daily with undead, trolls and Kalec.
And they managed to survive being exiled, amazingly proving that it was possible to survive. And didn't, oh I don't know, the farstrider's exist? Or soldiers? And there was an NPC in Silvermoon who spoke against Lorthy and was dragged away by some soldiers.
Darkspear no like tha amani mon, did ya no play 4.1? And tha orc an' tha faction lead by the previous ranger general is a beter bet than the filthy humans and their othmars and scarlets.
Exactly. 4.1. Not in TBC. And filthy humans? With scarlets who aren't part of the Alliance? A really good reason not to join the Alliance.
Actualy it's more like when you eat the flesh of dead animals for your hunger.
Problem is we need that food to survive. Because we need protein otherwise we'd be skinny and anorexic mostly. The Blood Elves don't need magic. The High Elves are proof of that.
Whos capital is geting raided atm?
Who's getting away scot-free for no other reason than plot armor at the moment. Jesus Christ, you even get a new warchief in front of the Alliance. It makes absolutely no sense that Varian doesn't listen to Jaina.
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morginar
Really? Cause it says under affiliation that he was part of the Sunreavers.
And two questions. Firstly, what the hell are Sunreavers doing with a portal to Darnassus anyway? Secondly, I don't think it's possible to 'hack' into a portal network otherwise the Horde and Alliance would have hacked into each others portal network a long time ago. Especially since someone was able to do it against a mage organistaion.
From the same page. Fanlyr Silverthorn is a level 90 blood elf first encountered on Pandaria. Though he spends much of his time directing members of the Horde and the Reliquary (at Garrosh Hellscream's personal behest),
his later actions suggest he is a member of the Sunreavers
, who (like Thalen Songweaver before him) is following the Warchief's direct orders.
Sure there is a possibility, but it's not confirmed in the slightest. And if we assume a ward works like a firewall. Then you can hack it, should you have the skill.
For example Rommath the awsome and powerfull grand magister did hack his way into dalaran. While it was under lockdown.
And why is hacking not common? Probably becouse you need the skill, (being a longlived elf with natural skills for the stuff helps.) And to go unnoticed they can porbably only send a few. In darnassus there where 4-5 Silvermoon mages, Silverthorn. And you. In dalaran it was Rommath and you. And they used dragon hawks to get away as they had more people with them. He wouln't be able to hack far to many people. Especialy as their pressence is known.
The druids of the flame were.
If we are to make the same as only take the betraying ones. Then Jaina should have done a investigation to root out the backstabers. Not immrison or kill all the blood elves in dalaran.
The purge of dalaran in the version of CC would be to immprison or kill all the night elves.
Exactly. 4.1. Not in TBC. And filthy humans? With scarlets who aren't part of the Alliance? A really good reason not to join the Alliance.In tbc it was explained that the elves did not like the darkspears, but aware that it was a diffrent tribe. The darkspear dislike for the amani was shown in a direct maner in 4.1
Othmar Garothias was the leader of the alliance for a period of time. And remember the starting zone. With the night elves spying, sabotaging and assulting the blood elves? The blood elves where neutral in Vannila and joined the horde in a questchain in TBC. The ranger general was the one to make the deal possible. And she did it to keep the elves safe, seemingly.
Varian doesn't listen to Grima Wormtounge*. Fixed it fer ya!
And they managed to survive being exiled, amazingly proving that it was possible to survive. By sucking rhonins manaballs and feeding out from dalaran? Sometimes I wonder if the resson Veressa dated mr. Redhair was to gain accses to the mana reserves.
Shall we stop kicking the dead horse yet? There is a lot unknown about the event you wish to debate about. Some of witch is based only on assumtion. There is a book being writen that most likley will give the ansers you may or may not desire. So be patient young padawan.
Post by
Rankkor
Thalen wasn't an archmage, he was a spy, please learn your lore before you say something like this.
Is that why Rhonin and Aethas both agreed to send him and him
alone
to Theramore. Against a whole load of Horde soldiers. I doubt they'd let a common mage do that.
See? LEARN your lore, or else I'm not gonna bother to have this debate with you. They didn't sent him alone, they sent a full regiment of mages to help, including Rhonin himself.
And then he suddenly gains an attitude and starts talking back to Jaina for no reason instead of trying to use diplomacy with Jaina? Totally characteristic behavior if he wasn't involved.
Ohh you mean its NOT completely normal for someone to develop and attitude when they were illegally attacked, imprisoned, and hunted down for no damned reason?
Also if there's anyone who got an attitude here is Jaina, who all of the sudden started acting like a complete and total b***h against EVERYONE, Alliance or Horde. Just look at her interaction with Lor'themar in Siege of Orgrimmar. He is polite, and cooperative, she is all "GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY WAY OR I SHOOT YOU"
Really? Cause it says under affiliation that he was part of the Sunreavers.
"Was". As in Past Tense. As in, Former Member.
And two questions. Firstly, what the hell are Sunreavers doing with a portal to Darnassus anyway? Secondly, I don't think it's possible to 'hack' into a portal network otherwise the Horde and Alliance would have hacked into each others portal network a long time ago. Especially since someone was able to do it against a mage organistaion.
Its not an easy thing to hack past magical wards, but it is posible. The main reason its not done often is because you need inside knowledge of the enemy Spell Ward you are trying to breach through. All members of the Kirin Tor had such knowledge, and Fanlyn being a former sunreaver did it too.
The druids of the flame were.
Before being druids of the flame, they were druids of the Alliance that turned traitors. Why weren't the rest of the druids hunted down to the last man?
The fact that the Church of the Holy Light didn't pose an immediate threat unlike the Sunreavers.
Yes they were. Do I need to remind you that they nearly blew up a nuclear bomb in the catedral district that could had killed thousands of innocent people? Or that their leader very nearly stole the dragon soul and therefore cause the Hour of Twilight to arrive?
Because a few hurt and imprisoned Blood Elves are nothing to how much people of the Alliance could be killed if another traitor turned out to exist and made a portal to Stormwind or another capital city and funneled thousands of Horde soldiers into the streets killing every man, woman and child.
Again, same argument could be made about the church, if another traitor turned out to exist within their ranks they could had caused immense damage to the war effort against the twilight hammer, causing the old gods to rise, and unleaash their armaggedon upon azeroth.
Oh, and the fact that the Church of the Holy Light weren't given and didn't blow a SECOND chance.
For the third time THE SAME can be said about the church of holy light. A single traitor was discovered within their ranks (Black Bishop) and nothing was done. That's fine, one bad apple doesn't mean everyone is rotten, lets give the rest of the church a second chance to prove they're not traitors. Then a second single traitor who happens to be THE LEADER OF THE FRIGGING CHURCH, very nearly causes the Hour of Twilight (Read: THE END OF THE WORLD) to arrive, along with all the crap he did on the book Twilight of the Aspects.
That's a second chance that the Church of holy light blew up. Were they purged down to the last man? hell no.
Then we have the sunreavers, where a single traitor was discovered within their ranks (Thalen) and nothing was done. That's fine, one bad apple doesn't mean everyone is rotten, lets give the rest of the sunreavers a second chance to prove they're not traitors. Then a second betrayal happens by a single person who is a FORMER member of the sunreavers. That's the second time an INDIVIDUAL within the organization does something bad. Exactly like the church.
Solution? purge them all.
Sense that does not make.
Post by
Snake387
Shall we stop kicking the dead horse yet? There is a lot unknown about the event you wish to debate about. Some of witch is based only on assumtion. There is a book being writen that most likley will give the ansers you may or may not desire. So be patient young padawan.
I'm perfectly happy to do that so long as Rank or anyone else doesn't try to use the Purge in debate's about different things.
For the third time THE SAME can be said about the church of holy light. A single traitor was discovered within their ranks (Black Bishop) and nothing was done. That's fine, one bad apple doesn't mean everyone is rotten, lets give the rest of the church a second chance to prove they're not traitors. Then a second single traitor who happens to be THE LEADER OF THE FRIGGING CHURCH, very nearly causes the Hour of Twilight (Read: THE END OF THE WORLD) to arrive, along with all the crap he did on the book Twilight of the Aspects.
That's a second chance that the Church of holy light blew up. Were they purged down to the last man? hell no.
Because they're, ooh, I don't know, a religion maybe? So technically you'd have to kill every citizen who believes in the light (this means essentially everyone in Stormwind, and all the Bronzeberad's which also means the soldiers), all the priests in the Alliance who are medics for you in a war and kill the Prince. Yeah, it's slightly undoable and impractical.
Before being druids of the flame, they were druids of the Alliance that turned traitors. Why weren't the rest of the druids hunted down to the last man?
Because the druids of the Flame kindly organised themselves into an organization. The Sunreavers haven't.
Ohh you mean its NOT completely normal for someone to develop and attitude when they were illegally attacked, imprisoned, and hunted down for no damned reason?
Was Aethas illegally attacked, imprisoned and hunted down when Jaina told him to pack up and leave with the Sunreavers?
Also if there's anyone who got an attitude here is Jaina, who all of the sudden started acting like a complete and total b***h against EVERYONE, Alliance or Horde. Just look at her interaction with Lor'themar in Siege of Orgrimmar. He is polite, and cooperative, she is all "GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY WAY OR I SHOOT YOU"
Uh-uh. Because, they're in a you know, war. And they shoot people in wars.
"Was". As in Past Tense. As in, Former Member.
Well, duh. After the Purge he was kicked out.
Its not an easy thing to hack past magical wards, but it is posible. The main reason its not done often is because you need inside knowledge of the enemy Spell Ward you are trying to breach through. All members of the Kirin Tor had such knowledge, and Fanlyn being a former sunreaver did it too.
The Blood Elves used to be former member's of the Alliance and are great mage's. Why haven't they hacked into the Alliance's portals? And you still haven't answered why the Blood Elves even had a portal to Darnassus.
See? LEARN your lore, or else I'm not gonna bother to have this debate with you. They didn't sent him alone, they sent a full regiment of mages to help, including Rhonin himself.
Sent him alone to the Northern gate.
And why is hacking not common? Probably becouse you need the skill, (being a longlived elf with natural skills for the stuff helps.) And to go unnoticed they can porbably only send a few. In darnassus there where 4-5 Silvermoon mages, Silverthorn. And you. In dalaran it was Rommath and you. And they used dragon hawks to get away as they had more people with them. He wouln't be able to hack far to many people. Especialy as their pressence is known.
Why don't they send an elite strike force to place a whole load of bombs around a city then?
Sure there is a possibility, but it's not confirmed in the slightest. And if we assume a ward works like a firewall. Then you can hack it, should you have the skill.
I said read the affiliation bit.
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morginar
The Blood Elves used to be former member's of the Alliance and are great mage's. Why haven't they hacked into the Alliance's portals? And you still haven't answered why the Blood Elves even had a portal to Darnassus.
Who to say that they havent? They could have sent a good spy and have the operation unknown to the player.
Why don't they send an elite strike force to place a whole load of bombs around a city then?
Ninjas be doing things stealthy and unnoticed. And SI:7 may have cought wind and stoped it and keept such things secret or it would be a lot of panic.
Uh-uh. Because, they're in a you know, war. And they shoot people in wars.
Didn't stop the americans and soviets to have jolly times together when they both battled the nazi-germans. And you don't shot your allies.
Was Aethas illegally attacked, imprisoned and hunted down when Jaina told him to pack up and leave with the Sunreavers? Yes. Dalaran is his home after all.
Because they're, ooh, I don't know, a religion maybe? So technically you'd have to kill every citizen who believes in the light (this means essentially everyone in Stormwind, and all the Bronzeberad's which also means the soldiers), all the priests in the Alliance who are medics for you in a war and kill the Prince. Yeah, it's slightly undoable and impractical.
Why not? Kirin tor did the same with the sunreaver a third of dalarans population.
I said read the affiliation bit.
That part is added as a maybe on that page. If you want I can go and delete it. It's a wiki after all.
Still there is nothing to back up such claim realy, we do not even know if he has ever been a part of the sunreavers. A lot on ward hacking is unknown. But if Rommath did it to enter Dalaran, during a
lockdown
mind you. Suggest that it is doable.
Post by
Rankkor
Shall we stop kicking the dead horse yet? There is a lot unknown about the event you wish to debate about. Some of witch is based only on assumtion. There is a book being writen that most likley will give the ansers you may or may not desire. So be patient young padawan.
I'm perfectly happy to do that so long as Rank or anyone else doesn't try to use the Purge in debate's about different things.
Why? does it sting to know your faction isn't pure dovey-white holy holy? That its just as capable of the same barbarism they accuse the horde of doing?
For the third time THE SAME can be said about the church of holy light. A single traitor was discovered within their ranks (Black Bishop) and nothing was done. That's fine, one bad apple doesn't mean everyone is rotten, lets give the rest of the church a second chance to prove they're not traitors. Then a second single traitor who happens to be THE LEADER OF THE FRIGGING CHURCH, very nearly causes the Hour of Twilight (Read: THE END OF THE WORLD) to arrive, along with all the crap he did on the book Twilight of the Aspects.
That's a second chance that the Church of holy light blew up. Were they purged down to the last man? hell no.
Because they're, ooh, I don't know, a religion maybe? So technically you'd have to kill every citizen who believes in the light (this means essentially everyone in Stormwind, and all the Bronzeberad's which also means the soldiers), all the priests in the Alliance who are medics for you in a war and kill the Prince. Yeah, it's slightly undoable and impractical.
I didn't said "kill everyone who expresses faith in the holy light". I said "purge the CHURCH" As in, the bishops, the clerics, the actual members of the church. It being a religion has nothing to do with it. In fact, it makes them even more suspect as few people are as capable of zealotry as a religion.
If already two HIGH RANKING members of the religion have turned out to be full blown psychos who betrayed the alliance, and committed heinous crimes, and yet absolutely NOTHING was done with the rest of the clergy, then why would you punish every single member of the sunreavers just because 1 current member and 1 former member did something wrong?
Before being druids of the flame, they were druids of the Alliance that turned traitors. Why weren't the rest of the druids hunted down to the last man?
Because the druids of the Flame kindly organised themselves into an organization. The Sunreavers haven't.
*sighs*
Tons of druids within the circle turned out to be traitors. Most of them organized themselves into the Druids of the Flames, but absolutely nothing was done about the rest of the druids who remained. What if the druids of the flames left a few of their people inside to act as double-agents? ever think of that? But noooooo, well over a third of the druids turned traitor and NOTHING was done about the rest, no investigation, no incarceration, no punishment of any kind.
meanwhile, TWO sunreavers turned out to be bad apples and look what they did to them. Face it man, it was done because they're blood elves. If they had been humans they would had gladly looked the other way, as they always do.
Ohh you mean its NOT completely normal for someone to develop and attitude when they were illegally attacked, imprisoned, and hunted down for no damned reason?
Was Aethas illegally attacked, imprisoned and hunted down when Jaina told him to pack up and leave with the Sunreavers?
Actually yes. I did the quest. Jaina ported in, and without mediating or saying a single word *BANG* you're dead, and *BANG* you're dead, she killed in cold blood two of Aethas' bodyguards, and then without giving any explanation, or even hearing him out, or doing any investigation, or at least let him prove his innocence she told him to pack up and leave.
This despite the fact that she is in no position to be bossing around Aethas who was her equal as a member of the Council of Six.
And besides, why are you suddenly saying Aethas "developed an attitude"? He was completely silent during the confrontation between Lor'themar and Jaina in the isle of thunder, he never once raises his voice or acts like a butthurt jackass about the whole thing.
Also if there's anyone who got an attitude here is Jaina, who all of the sudden started acting like a complete and total b***h against EVERYONE, Alliance or Horde. Just look at her interaction with Lor'themar in Siege of Orgrimmar. He is polite, and cooperative, she is all "GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY WAY OR I SHOOT YOU"
Uh-uh. Because, they're in a you know, war. And they shoot people in wars.
I never said otherwise, I'm debating your (badly backed up) point that Aethas "Developed an attitude" when Jaina is fifty times worse. Not only aethas is polite and cooperative with his allies, he doesn't display any belligerence or hostility to his enemies. Unlike Jaina who went full ragemode on friend and foe alike. So before accusing others of "developing attitudes" look at your own ranks.
"Was". As in Past Tense. As in, Former Member.
Well, duh. After the Purge he was kicked out.
I meant he was a former member BEFORE the purge of dalaran. During all of mists of pandaria he was an officer of the reliquary, and he never worn the sunreaver tabard, nor was he an official member.
Its not an easy thing to hack past magical wards, but it is posible. The main reason its not done often is because you need inside knowledge of the enemy Spell Ward you are trying to breach through. All members of the Kirin Tor had such knowledge, and Fanlyn being a former sunreaver did it too.
The Blood Elves used to be former member's of the Alliance and are great mage's. Why haven't they hacked into the Alliance's portals? And you still haven't answered why the Blood Elves even had a portal to Darnassus.
A: Because as Morginar explained, you can hack past the wards to create a portal, but you can't keep it open long enough to send a large army without being detected. Every single time we've seen in wow a mage using their powers to hack past a ward to create a portal they've done it with very VERY few people going through it.
Jaina ported to Orgrimmar prior to the battle of undercity, because she's a powerful mage and knew how to get past the wards, but she only brought herself and the player.
Jaina later ported troops to the undercity, getting them past the forsaken troops in silverpine but once more, she only brought a small elite squad (as opposed to the large army brought by the horde) composed of herself, varian, valeera, broll, the player, and about a dozen guards.
Fanlyn created a portal to darnassus and he was only able to bring with him 5 silvermoon mages (notice how they're SILVERMOON MAGES, not sunreavers) and the player.
Rommath himself was able to port inside dalaran despite jaina locking it down to prevent anyone leaving but once more he only brought himself and the player. When it was time to leave, it was with a very large group of people as it was him, aethas, the player, and ever sunreaver they could rescue from the clutches of the kirin tor. So rather than port out they escaped via Dragonhawks.
See? LEARN your lore, or else I'm not gonna bother to have this debate with you. They didn't sent him alone, they sent a full regiment of mages to help, including Rhonin himself.
Sent him alone to the Northern gate.
Because the Kirin Tor sent a token support to the battle, they didn't sent every single one of their forces, they sent a regiment of mages and they spread them around the city at key locations to provide support to the troops. Mages are not frontline infantry.
And why is hacking not common? Probably becouse you need the skill, (being a longlived elf with natural skills for the stuff helps.) And to go unnoticed they can porbably only send a few. In darnassus there where 4-5 Silvermoon mages, Silverthorn. And you. In dalaran it was Rommath and you. And they used dragon hawks to get away as they had more people with them. He wouln't be able to hack far to many people. Especialy as their pressence is known.
Why don't they send an elite strike force to place a whole load of bombs around a city then?
Because of a lot of reasons. 1: refer to what we said about the limited carrying capacity of the portals, if you want to stay detected you can only bring a few people, and having to bring extra equipment will strain the portal.
2: planting bombs in the city is not as easy as it sounds, in isle of thunder both factions plant bombs on tiny backwater outposts in the middle of nowhere and they get defused.
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1014404
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Post by
Skreeran
Aethas committed treason twice, and got off scott free the first time. He has only himself the blame for the Sunreaver exile, which is fitting karma justice for the blood elves for exiling the high elves.Haha.
No.
Post by
Rankkor
Aethas committed treason twice, and got off scott free the first time. He has only himself the blame for the Sunreaver exile, which is fitting karma justice for the blood elves for exiling the high elves.
Nope. Never betrayed the kirin tor. A loyal and upstanding member to the end, until they repaid his loyalty with betrayal.
As for your second point: Nope again. The blood elves had been working hard on mending the fence with the high elves for the whole exile thingie, including but not limited to, allowing the high elves to enter the sunwell to sate their hunger. Then the high elves repaid hospitality with betrayal.
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Adamsm
Or the High's thought that the Blood were going to go after them again. The two groups have hated each other for a long time after all.
Post by
Rankkor
Or the High's thought that the Blood were going to go after them again. The two groups have hated each other for a long time after all.
Nah, they simply were backstabbing bastards. Come on, the blood elves had given them free access to the sunwell in exchange for absolutely nothing, what reason could they have to think they were going after them again?
Vereesa in no uncertain terms says she's glad to be given an excuse to vent all her accumulated rage on the sunreavers. She's actually worse than jaina in that regard.
As for blood elves hating high elves, sorry adamsm but that's no longer true. Not only did they gave them access to the sunwell, even in the middle of the purge of dalaran, Rommath expresses regret over having to kill so many elves, citing how there's so few of them left in the world to continue fighting one another. This after said elves just gave them a HUGE knife in the back.
And this is ROMMATH we're talking about here. ROMMATH. Kael'thas' former yesman, and Blood Elf ultranationalist extraordinaire.
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Adamsm
I don't know about that Rank; elves have long memories and even longer hatreds.
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morginar
And It's his high and powerfullness the grand magister Rommath we're talking about here. His high and powerfullness the grand magister Rommath. Kael'thas' former best friend forever, and Blood Elf ultranationalist extraordinaire.
Fixed it for you.
And as a powerfull mage he doesn't use water elementals but Arcanis Mechanica.
And even the leader and recreator of the reliquary, High Examiner Tae'thelan Bloodwatcher. Formed the reliquary to obtain artifacts to unify the elves. Free from addiction.
The ranger general invited Veressa in 4.1 to kill some trolls in Zul'aman.
It is not a rare agenda for the blood elves to make peace with the high elves and have them rejoin with silvermoon so the elves can stand united.
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