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Post by
Rankkor
*cough*Rank, General*cough*
And I'm a little sad about the death of Garrosh; was hoping he could get a true redemption.
not me. I love the horde, I AM the horde, The horde was the very reason I joined this game in the first place. I loved what the horde was, and what it represented. I LOATHE what it has become in cataclysm.
From the genocidal forsakens, to the warmongering breed of idiots led by garrosh, to the barbarities commited in his name.
If Sylvannas doesn't deserves redemption, if Putress didn't deserved it, Garrosh doesn't either.
The only thing I hate about this is that the alliance gets to put their feet inside horde territory. Already they've been able to lay siege to undercity, and now orgrimmar, and while they never get to KEEP the city, they still get to assault it.
When do the horde gets a chance to assault stormwind? or ironforge? =(
also GOD-DAMMIT >.< my favorite BG got scrapped. No DOTA bg T_T
Post by
Behelich
WOOOOOOT! About damn time we killed him, too!
All that remains is to kill the Bitсh Queen and give BElves and Draeneis more spotlight and I shall be happy with the direction the plot goes.
Post by
Gone
Ok if I wasnt so naieve I would hope that with Garrosh IN THE @#$%ING GROUND the Horde and Alliance could finnaly come to peace with one another (lets just say Sylvanas suffers a fatal accident too and Varian lightens up a bit). Seriously I was chomping at the bit during WOTLK, but after Cataclysm, Im sick of all the fighting.
Dont get me wrong I know its not gonna happen really, at least not untill the final expansion, but one can dream...
Post by
Gone
Seriously if they had just flashed the words "Garrosh Hellscream is going down" then it would have gotten a much better reaction than that half assed trailer they through together for Blizzcon that cost them 4 million subscribers...
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588688
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Post by
Gone
You know its not till I start farming archeology in Kalimdor that i really apreciate just how much territory the Night Elves used to have.
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588688
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Post by
Rankkor
While I am glad garrosh is going down, I don't like that alliance gets so many chances to invade OUR lands so often. When do horde get to invade stormwind? or ironforge? why can't WE put down Moira? or some other crazed character?
Furthermore, I wonder how this is gonna work exactly (And by "this" I mean the encounter)
lets break this down in several parts.
A: Garrosh is the final leader of the expansion. This means he's not gonna be a world boss, nor is he gonna be an "Event" boss (or quest-boss) like Varimathras and Putress were on WOTLK. He's gonna be inside an insntance, with a portal, with trash packs, and everything. Where would this portal be located? it can't be physically IN orgrimmar, or else alliance players would never get there (Without having to fight dozens of horde players)
B: This also brings up another problem, how is this encounter gonna play out POST-MoP? because AFTER MoP, Thrall returns to being warchief, orgrimmar returns to how it was before, and then what happens to the instance were garrosh is located? if he's a boss in the same vein of Putress and Varimathras (Event boss) then his encounter is gonna be temporal, for a quest-chain that will be removed after MoP ends. If he's actually gonna be a RAID BOSS, his raid is permanent, like ICC is, or DS is.
C: Continuity. Garrosh has been too ingrained in horde questing experience, and even alliance questing experience. He shows up in silverpine, stonetalon, twilight highlands, he's mentioned in gilneas for the worgen, ect ect. He even shows up in the cinematic video for horde pandaren. Once MoP is over, how is this going to be justified? Thrall is sitting as Warchief in orgrimmar, but hey, at lvl20 I go to stonetalon and this garrosh dude is warchief...... what gives?
I seriously hope they do bring up some Horde Love in the future. And I mean REAL horde love, because so far, whenever they wanna pay attention to my faction, they do so by making us jerks. (Broken Front, gilnean invasion, theramoore invasion, ect)
when is our turn to invade some alliance city and put a rogue leader down? Alliance has had 2 chances to do this on OUR ground. We deserve the same shot too.
Post by
Adamsm
Heh, it's mainly cause the Alliance leaders are set up that the rogues are taken down from within.
Post by
Rankkor
Heh, it's mainly cause the Alliance leaders are set up that the rogues are taken down from within.
is it too much to ask that our rogues are dealt the same way?
The way things are going, chances are when Sylvannas is taken down, alliance players will get in on that too :S
Post by
Adamsm
Heh well maybe your rogues should stop attacking gatherings of both factions lol.
Post by
Rankkor
Heh well maybe your rogues should stop attacking gatherings of both factions lol.
hey whenever gatherings of both factions.......hummm well...... gather, its a THIRD PARTY who attacks them.
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588688
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Post by
Adamsm
Heh well maybe your rogues should stop attacking gatherings of both factions lol.
hey whenever gatherings of both factions.......hummm well...... gather, its a THIRD PARTY who attacks them.
Heh, I mean, you mentioned the Wrathgate, which was done by RAS and Vari(Forsaken aligned); had they attacked when it was just the Horde, the Alliance wouldn't have been there. But yeah, a lot of the Alliance rogues attack in the Alliance cities, so there shouldn't be a Horde force there to join in; Onyxia, Thermaplugg, Godfry and his cronies(in Gilneas). So far the only Alliance rogue everyone has joined in on was Fandral.
Well, on the bright side rankorr, red shirt guy said that this was his secret that metzen told him at blizzcon, and that thrall is the one to deal the killing blow to garrosh. I also have a strong feeling that garrosh gets possessed by a sha, perhaps the most powerful of sha, because of his extreme hatred, and he becomes god-mode, otherwise it'd be odd that a warrior with no super powers is the main antagonist in a setting like warcraft.
/roll eyes Red-Shirt Guy...yeah, that needs to fade away. And I hope not; let's just kill Garrosh without anyone playing Meat Puppet with him.
Post by
Rankkor
Well, on the bright side rankorr, red shirt guy said that this was his secret that metzen told him at blizzcon, and that thrall is the one to deal the killing blow to garrosh. I also have a strong feeling that garrosh gets possessed by a sha, perhaps the most powerful of sha, because of his extreme hatred, and he becomes god-mode, otherwise it'd be odd that a warrior with no super powers is the main antagonist in a setting like warcraft.
gonna have to agree with Adamsn on this. "Red-shirt guy" (I wish I knew his real name, this is a really dumb nickname) is really exploiting his 15 minutes of fame more than he should.
He was told SQUAT on blizzcon man, he's just fanning attention to himself.
Last but not least, I doubt Garrosh gets possessed by the sha, a more likely scenario is that his ABSURD hatred is what keeps generating MORE sha and this is why he has to be put down, because otherwise his own hate will cause harm even to his own people.
Post by
Rankkor
Heh well maybe your rogues should stop attacking gatherings of both factions lol.
hey whenever gatherings of both factions.......hummm well...... gather, its a THIRD PARTY who attacks them.
Heh, I mean, you mentioned the Wrathgate, which was done by RAS and Vari(Forsaken aligned); had they attacked when it was just the Horde, the Alliance wouldn't have been there. But yeah, a lot of the Alliance rogues attack in the Alliance cities, so there shouldn't be a Horde force there to join in; Onyxia, Thermaplugg, Godfry and his cronies(in Gilneas). So far the only Alliance rogue everyone has joined in on was Fandral.
And Benedictus :P don't forget about him.
but what irks me is that those 2 have been dealt with in enemy territory. WE never had the chance to invade Darnassus to put Fandral down, or invade stormwind to put benedictus down.
Its not really fair that the alliance gets the chance to invade our territory TWICE, while we get nothing.
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588688
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Post by
Rankkor
Well it's either he becomes super powered by a sha or he has tons of fanatical horde elite soldiers to back him up during the fight. Because Varian would tear him a new one with his lo-gosh powers and thrall would burninate him with his shaman powers.
Honestly, after the way Deathwing was set up, It would not surprise me if the fight was more like this:
WE (players) fight against adds, such as overzealous troops loyal to garrosh, while Thrall and Garrosh fight on the background. After we've killed the main bulk of his troops, Thrall deals the blow that leaves garrosh with like 10% HP, and we beat the rest of it down.
The fight with Deathwing worked like that, we never ACTUALLY get to attack him till the last bit of the fight. The rest of it we just fight adds.
Could be some corrupt shamans empowering Garrosh, so he has a chance to stand toe-to-toe with thrall, we gotta kill the adds protecting the corrupt shamans, as we put the shamans down, garrosh looses power. Once all the corrupt shamans are down, Thrall easily chews through garrosh's health and we finish it off.
And the Enrage timer would be Thrall's health :P if we don't kill the corrupt shamans fast enough, Thrall dies, and we wipe.
yes I have a very vivid imagination xD
Edit:
that the alliance is the white knight faction, and the horde is the grey faction.
wait a tick there dude. he spoke about the alliance, he never said anything about the horde. At no point he's said what exactly the horde is.
Post by
Adamsm
Yes, the Archbishop too...of course, the Church still refuses to believe he went bad lol.
Welp, anyway, I can now say, after reading all this new info, including what metzen said, that the alliance is the white knight faction, and the horde is the grey faction. I hope horde stops getting hit with the villain bat after garrosh is dead tho.You must be reading a different article then I am, cause I don't see that anywhere: Since the War between both factions is what is waking up the Sha and making them a thousand times worse and that madness is infecting the Mantids, I'd say both factions are gray...can't really be a white knight if your very presence is making the continent worse.
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