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Post by
Behelich
Not to be nitpicky, but new animations have been added time and time again already (Jousting, Reading, Strangulated, Swim Walking for Vash'jir, Stormstrike...)
Post by
Atik
Not to be nitpicky, but new animations have been added time and time again already (Jousting, Reading, Strangulated, Swim Walking for Vash'jir, Stormstrike...)
Isn't swim walking just the sprint animation?
Post by
Rankkor
ya but the new animations are quite special.
At the moment (god I hope they dont remove that "no auto-attack thing") monks are like a melee caster.
Casters have a weapon, but they never use it, its just a stat-stick, their damage comes from casting spells, and their weapon is sheathed the whole time.
Monks while being melee, will rarely use their weapons, they are just stat sticks, no auto-attacks, the skills all have an animation where they use either their feet or their hands to attack.
Edit: to elaborate, its not hard to implement a new attack animation for current classes because they will allways have the weapon involved, but an animation for an attack in which the weapon remains sheathed would be far more complex, besides I dont think the base skeleton of the model for the older races like taurens or dwarves can support those special spinning kicks, or upper-cuts
Edit:
Not to be nitpicky, but new animations have been added time and time again already (Jousting, Reading, Strangulated, Swim Walking for Vash'jir, Stormstrike...)
Isn't swim walking just the sprint animation?
it is but in slow-mo MATRIX STYLE!
Post by
Atik
I still say that will be hellfel to balance...
Post by
Behelich
Me? I want casters to actually wield their weapons. As in, slam your staff into the ground when you cast Arcane Explosion, for instance.
Not to be nitpicky, but new animations have been added time and time again already (Jousting, Reading, Strangulated, Swim Walking for Vash'jir, Stormstrike...)
Isn't swim walking just the sprint animation?
Nope, check out in the WMV, we jump up as if in low gravity.
Post by
Atik
Me? I want casters to actually wield their weapons. As in, slam your staff into the ground when you cast Arcane Explosion, for instance.
Not to be nitpicky, but new animations have been added time and time again already (Jousting, Reading, Strangulated, Swim Walking for Vash'jir, Stormstrike...)
Isn't swim walking just the sprint animation?
Nope, check out in the WMV, we jump up as if in low gravity.
But that is the only difference.
All they did was slow the animatin and down the little rise. Hardly a new addition...
Post by
Rankkor
I still say that will be hellfel to balance...
yep, it will be ,and I have no doubts that during the beta, and 5.0 monks will be GODS, then on 5.1 they will be nerfed badly, on 5.2 they will be nerfed again to the point they cant kill anyone even by accident, and the cycle will end in 5.3 where they will be buffed and will finnaly find some balance.
ya know..... like my class :P
I was an overpowered GOD, for 3.0.8, I remember that I was able to solo the ring of blood in nagrand AT LEVEL 66, no heirlooms, no help other than my own pet, because at that level my Death strike was already healing for over 10k.
I remember how it used to heal me at 80 for well over 17k, 34k if crit.
then 3.1 came, and OHH THE HORROR, just about every talent, every spell, every skill I had took a massive critical hit in the balls, and my DPS was lowered by nearly 60%. Then 3.2 came, and the nerfs were so bad, I had problems soloing mobs in icecrown, if I pulled over 4 I was dead, and my DPS was bad enough that I was forced to sit out most of that tier, I only did ToTC like 3 times and only because everyone else was already geared and my guild took me on an alt run, I had a VERY hard time getting an invite for a heroic unless I was tanking and even then it wasn't easy.
then 3.3 came and HALLELUJAH, PRAISE THE LORD MY POWER RETURNED, the LFG was added, doing heroics was no longer a nightmarish affair that I was only able to do twice a week, got a nice spot on my guild core raiding group for ICC, and finnaly, unlife was good =D
Monks will have a VERY similar tale to tell others. this is something that I guarantee you.
Post by
Behelich
I still say that will be hellfel to balance...
yep, it will be ,and I have no doubts that during the beta, and 5.0 monks will be GODS, then on 5.1 they will be nerfed badly, on 5.2 they will be nerfed again to the point they cant kill anyone even by accident, and the cycle will end in 5.3 where they will be buffed and will finnaly find some balance.
ya know..... like my class :P
I was an overpowered GOD, for 3.0.8, I remember that I was able to solo the ring of blood in nagrand AT LEVEL 66, no heirlooms, no help other than my own pet, because at that level my Death strike was already healing for over 10k.
I remember how it used to heal me at 80 for well over 17k, 34k if crit.
then 3.1 came, and OHH THE HORROR, just about every talent, every spell, every skill I had took a massive critical hit in the balls, and my DPS was lowered by nearly 60%. Then 3.2 came, and the nerfs were so bad, I had problems soloing mobs in icecrown, if I pulled over 4 I was dead, and my DPS was bad enough that I was forced to sit out most of that tier, I only did ToTC like 3 times and only because everyone else was already geared and my guild took me on an alt run, I had a VERY hard time getting an invite for a heroic unless I was tanking and even then it wasn't easy.
then 3.3 came and HALLELUJAH, PRAISE THE LORD MY POWER RETURNED, the LFG was added, doing heroics was no longer a nightmarish affair that I was only able to do twice a week, got a nice spot on my guild core raiding group for ICC, and finnaly, unlife was good =D
Monks will have a VERY similar tale to tell others. this is something that I guarantee you.
Well, I've seen an interesting idea on the TvTropes about the reasoning behind us, death knights (I'm a dk as much as a paladin, sue me) being TREMENDOUSLY powerful in the beginning. They wanted the playerbase to loathe the class just as we are supposed to be loathed in-game, being mass murdering psychopaths in the past and whatnot.
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306612
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Post by
Rankkor
Well, I've seen an interesting idea on the TvTropes about the reasoning behind us, death knights (I'm a dk as much as a paladin, sue me) being TREMENDOUSLY powerful in the beginning. They wanted the playerbase to loathe the class just as we are supposed to be loathed in-game, being mass murdering psychopaths in the past and whatnot.
if I ever found out that all the crap I had to take in WOTLK was on purpose by blizz I'm gonna punch someone.
T_T you weren't there man, they were SO FRIKKING MEAN
Post by
Behelich
Well, I've seen an interesting idea on the TvTropes about the reasoning behind us, death knights (I'm a dk as much as a paladin, sue me) being TREMENDOUSLY powerful in the beginning. They wanted the playerbase to loathe the class just as we are supposed to be loathed in-game, being mass murdering psychopaths in the past and whatnot.
if I ever found out that all the crap I had to take in WOTLK was on purpose by blizz I'm gonna punch someone.
T_T you weren't there man, they were SO FRIKKING MEAN
I was there, rank, I bought WotLK the day it came out here in Russia. And tell you what? I couldn't care less, not after being ganged up by a rogue three levels higher than me (74 vs 77), with me being on 50% of my hp, and DEVASTATING him.
Post by
Monday
Well, I've seen an interesting idea on the TvTropes about the reasoning behind us, death knights (I'm a dk as much as a paladin, sue me) being TREMENDOUSLY powerful in the beginning. They wanted the playerbase to loathe the class just as we are supposed to be loathed in-game, being mass murdering psychopaths in the past and whatnot.
if I ever found out that all the crap I had to take in WOTLK was on purpose by blizz I'm gonna punch someone.
T_T you weren't there man, they were SO FRIKKING MEAN
I was there, rank, I bought WotLK the day it came out here in Russia. And tell you what? I couldn't care less, not after being ganged up by a rogue three levels higher than me (74 vs 77), with me being on 50% of my hp, and DEVASTATING him.
I've done stuff like that too. I was leveling my DK (Blood, back when you could DPS as Blood), got ambushed by a paladin, murdered him, killed his rogue friend, then called in my warlock IRL friend to help my fight them when they brought in another rogue.
It was funny as hell, because I couldn't die. Gift of the Naaru + Vampiric Blood + Deathstrike = win.
Post by
Orranis
I hope this hasn't been put up here before, but whatever.
World of Warcraft: Lore and Story Q&A
What happened to Arthas's body? What happened to Illidan's body? What about Kael'thas?
It is likely we will bring Illidan bac
k, not so much for Kael'thas, he already had his come back. Arthas's body is somewhere but we don't really know where.
Uhm... What?
Thoughts?
Post by
Behelich
What. You mean Maive turning batsh!t insane was all for nothing?
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306612
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Post by
Rankkor
I dont like it when they bring back villains that are DEAD, I do hope they dont end up bringing back Illidan, because I'm really getting tired of fighting the same people several times.
I mean, its one thing when we never killed them in the first place, like rag or kiljaeden, but when we KILL them and then they POOF get back in its annoying and breaks inmersion.
I go all like "what the hell am I fighting for if they are still gonna come back?" I'm hoping that villains like deathwing are not just killed, but are actually deader than dead. dead.
I kinda like the last line of the trailer:
For all the challenges we've faced, and all the places we've seen, azeroth's limits have yet to be revealed
:P I like it that there are still corners of this world we've yet to explore.
T_T you weren't there man, they were SO FRIKKING MEAN
Retribution Paladin here.
You have NO IDEA what it is like to eat #$%^.
ohh hush hush, you weren't in duskwood on june 2009. Dks were treated worst than leppers, worst than 1-dollar skanks, Dks were treated as a vermin worth only of insult, and deserving of every ounce of loathing imaginable.
I got double rations for being a dk and being a Latino who back then dind't had such a strong grasp of english and thus occasionally used spanish words among phrases.
Post by
Adamsm
Since no one else linked it(shame on you all), here you go from yesterday in regards to the Lore Q&A.
5:17PM That's all for the panel. Thanks for reading!
5:16PM A: Jack Black won't be voicing a Pandaren Leader.
5:15PM A: They don't really have leaders, they'll have representatives with the Alliance and Horde.
5:14PM Q: Who's going to be the Pandaren leader, and can he be voiced by Jack Black?
5:13PM A: We have no idea why it's there, it's just cool.
5:13PM A: Metzen: It means Thrall is going to leaving Aggra and start dating Jaina (Just Kidding!)
5:12PM Q continued: So what is this giant snake tail?
5:11PM He printed out a screenshot and is now up showing Metzen! Awesome. Crowd loves this.
5:11PM Q: In Gundrak, there's an area where you look over the cliff, there's a big wiggly snake tail.
5:10PM A: It wasn't an easy transition for him. The scourge and Cult of the Damned operating the in Plaguelands are autonomous.
5:07PM Q: What happened to Bolvar? We haven't seen him reign in the scourge at all. What's he doing on the Throne?
5:07PM A: (Metzen doesn't want to answer it -- seriously)
5:06PM Q: What happened to Neptulon in the Throne of Tides?
5:05PM A: There are only a few left.
5:05PM Q: Are there any rules for Valkyr resurrection?
5:04PM Metzen: Before Golden wrote The Shattering, they didn't have plans for Anduin. But Christie killed it. He's currently off to boarding school with the Draenei. We've got some plans for that boy one day.
5:03PM A: I don't know exactly when it's going to drop, trying for 5.0, I think Varian has potential to be a very bad ass character. Epic Quest line, "Trials of the high king." Based off the trails of Heracules. You'll be his squire, you'll help him become the most awesome warrior. There will be no question from the Alliance races, they'll all follow Varian. "The Alliance is going to need a king with his #$%^ together."
5:01PM Q: Does Alliance ever get to kick ass in WoW? Thrall is great, Varian is boring and one dimensional.
4:59PM Basically, they don't want to put too much reliance on the books, because not everyone reads the books. But, Metzen is rambling a bit here. He's just really passionate about stories, and you can tell that he wishes people would read the books.
4:58PM "For the billions of WoW players, not everyone wants to read a book." (Metzen then says "it's the digital age, buy a Kindle damnit").
4:57PM A: Nature of aspect and what's coming for them -- it's big. Big things go down in patch 4.3. The completion of a very grand *grand* cycle.
4:56PM Q: We don't see what's happened with the books come over into the game too much. (the questioner trailed off)
4:53PM Don't jump to conclusions about MoP -- it's just as rich as anything we've put out so far.
4:52PM The pandaren are ultimately going to be part of the solution between Horde and Alliance.
4:51PM A: (Metzen) There's no way we're going to build an expansion set on an April Fools joke.
4:50PM A: You haven't even seen who Pandaren are yet, you haven't seen what they've had to struggle with yet. If you think it's a joke race, check out what we're doing. Because we're actually building a lot of story with this.
4:50PM Q: Is there going to be something serious in MoP, or is it just going to be light stuff?
4:48PM A: If the troll tribes could ever unite, look out world! Why are the Zandalari about creating a new empire? That's what you're going to find out in MoP.
4:47PM Q: Will we ever really see a return of the troll empire?
4:45PM A: There's something unique about Azeroth in the cosmology, and there's a reason why Azeroth is the focus.
4:44PM A: Titans are a big thing, a big part of the overall story; but we're letting them cook.
4:43PM Q: Something about the Titans.... (guy is mumbling too much)
4:42PM Metzen adds: I can imagine there'd be shenanigans and some idiots would try to fix it up.
4:41PM A: Don't know, specifically wasn't address yet.
4:41PM Q: Where are the shards of frostmourne?
4:40PM A: We haven't grafted her fate, although my impression of WCIII, I think it works better if she died before the fall of Lord.
4:39PM Q: What happened to Arthas' mom?
4:39PM Metzen basically says watch Star Trek if you don't get this whole time thing.
4:38PM They can't be warlocks.
4:36PM A: (Metzen) If that's true, then I don't like it (Metzen thought warlocks were out). You could argue that pandarens have a vibe with not having hate.
4:35PM Q: How does it make more sense for a Pandarian to be a warlock and not a druid, given pandarens are all about peace?
4:34PM Metzen: We get clobbered on the forums that we don't develop these characters enough, they get called Mary Sue, etc... but we love them all, their developing is coming.
4:33PM Jania is going to be more active as a character too, she's going to have her moment.
4:32PM The _____ at 4:30 is Terenas' crown, the one Arthas knocked off his head when he killed him.
4:32PM A: (Metzen) Good point. Before the quest line in Nagrand in BC, there was no Thrall at all, and I like this guy. It took an xpac or two to get his story up. I love Tryande, I had a blast writing her in WCIII. We just haven't gotten to her yet.
4:31PM Q: Regarding Tyrande, she's been a strong female leader. But she's kind of fell off during BC and Cata. Now she's Malfie's arm candy. What's going on?
4:30PM (Don't know if he's serious or not)
4:30PM A: We're going to make it a legendary loot drop.
4:30PM Q: What happened to _____ helm?
4:29PM A: We struggle with how to include novels in the game, they're kind of hard to work into the game.
4:29PM Q: Why haven't characters like Rhonin, that have been directly tied to the black dragonflight, been involved with killing Deathwing?
4:28PM Metzen says that the RPG books are broadly non-canonical, but there are bits in there that we want to use. At some point there may be a project we go back and decide what bits we want to use.
4:26PM A: We're thinking about it
4:26PM Q: What happened to Calia (Arthas' sister)?
4:25PM A: (Metzen) Maybe one day.
4:25PM Q: Metzen, will you write more?
4:22PM A: The Pandaren that live on the turtle have been separated from the Pandaren on the main land for generations. They're the bold Pandaren.
4:21PM Q: What is the motivation for the Pandaren to fight each other?
4:21PM A: We don't necessarily know right now where Arthas' body is.
4:20PM A: (Metzen) I woudln't say we're going to bring all of them back. Do you guys think we should bring Illidan back? (Crowd cheers) Based on that response I think it is likely, we'll have to find some way to bring Illidan back.
4:20PM Q: What happened to Arthas' body, Kael'thas' body, Illidan's body? Can we just bring them all back?
4:19PM Crowd loves him.
4:19PM A: Yes, we're looking at ways to make that compelling and interesting. We have some plans, but nothing to really talk about yet.
4:19PM RSG: Pandaria world PvP zone?
4:18PM A: Two patches later, maybe. (Metzen nods: right). It's not on the cards right away, but it's something we'd like to do.
4:18PM RSG: Are we going back to Gilneas?
4:17PM RSG: Thanks for putting me in the game, I like that!
4:16PM The wildhammer fact checker is here, and Metzen just went down to shake his hand. Class act!
Post by
Rankkor
actually bro, it would be better if you had arranged them :P as they are completely scrambled and its imposible to make sense of them.
MMO-champ has a more organized transcript (albeit slightly incomplete, mix it with the also slightly incomplete wowhead transcript and you get a rather complete thing)
and also DAMN xD you came back with a vengeance :P 27 posts in 30 minutes?
Post by
Adamsm
Lol, yeah.
Post by
Behelich
4:26PM Q: What happened to Calia (Arthas' sister)?
4:26PM A: We're thinking about it
4:41PM Q: Where are the shards of frostmourne?
4:41PM A: Don't know, specifically wasn't address yet.
Hope yet remains for me.
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