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Post by
Adamsm
rather than there being 3 years of almost nothing happening after The Shattering.Other then the world picking itself up after Deathwing tore the world a new bunghole.
Post by
Skreeran
rather than there being 3 years of almost nothing happening after The Shattering.Other then the world picking itself up after Deathwing tore the world a new bunghole.So Orgrimmar has still been under construction for 3 years? Thrall has waited to go to the Maelstrom for 3 years?
We're working on dealing with the Cataclysm as soon as we start Cataclysm. There isn't 3 years of work done already. I don't know if Azeroth would have held together if the World Pillar had stayed shattered for 3 years.
Post by
Monday
The Shattering happened not every long before the Gilnean's joined the Alliance (I seriously doubt that the Gilneas phasing took three years). Probably more like a few weeks at most.
Post by
Adamsm
We're not really sure how much time happens between the attack at the church and you waking up in the stocks. Not that hard to believe that the opening conflict and the war lasted for longer then you think, same with the events on Kezan and the Isles.
Post by
Monday
I thought that it said somewhere that you were only out for a day or two...
Hmm.
EL Wait, the Shattering happens after you're in the stocks.
Post by
Orranis
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We're working on dealing with the Cataclysm as soon as we start Cataclysm. There isn't 3 years of work done already. I don't know if Azeroth would have held together if the World Pillar had stayed shattered for 3 years.
As I remember we see him off to Nagrand in the pre-Shattering events and then not seeing him again until he's already at the Maelstrom. No telling when exactly he departed, it could've been a day after the Shattering for all we know.
Post by
Adamsm
I thought that it said somewhere that you were only out for a day or two...
Hmm.
EL Wait, the Shattering happens after you're in the stocks.
As does the Lost Isles; and again, the passage of time isn't completely clear about how long it takes you to travel from one major event to the next, could be a single day, could be a few months, and considering what you see at both the end of the Gilneas starting zone as you get on the ship and what occurs during the events of Silverpine/Gilneas liberation front, there's a bit of a time change there as well.
Edit: Speaking of the Isles and Thrall, Aggra and the rest, there is quite a bit of time there too before Thrall burns rubber off to stop the collapsing pillar.
Post by
Patty
Some of
these
are simply brilliant! I didn't know where else to post them, and I was lurking on the official RP forums heh. :P
Post by
Rankkor
The Shattering happened not every long before the Gilnean's joined the Alliance (I seriously doubt that the Gilneas phasing took three years). Probably more like a few weeks at most.
this is something that makes little sence.
the implementation of specific NPC's to determine just when the worgen and goblin zones happened.
now it was said (I think it was blizzcon) that the first 5 lvls of the worgen happen 1 year ago, then you get defeated at the church, you transform, and scour the wilds for a year till they capture you, and from that moment, the forsaken invade and shortly afterwards the shattering happens.
and here is the contradiction:
In the goblin zone, while u're a top-shot executive of the KTC corporation, deathwing makes a fly-by and strafes kezan's mount Kajaro making the island blow up.
thus we assume that the first 5 lvls of the goblins happen just as the forsakens are invading gilneas (forsakens invade just as the shattering is starting, kezan is destroyed as the shattering is starting)
but then the few gobs who escape kezan stumble upon thrall and his ship getting bombarded by alliance ships, and here is the big part that makes little sence to me:
there is a worgen officer among the SI:7 operatives sent to kill thrall.
Alexi Silenthowl
between the goblins escaping kezan, and crashing into the lost isles, there wasn't that much time happening, and the shattering was litteraly just starting, so how the heck did a worgen managed to get there?
personally I liked this quest more as it was back in the beta.
back in beta, the 3 targets of that quest were a human male, a night elf male, and a draenei female.
the draenei was changed to a nightelf female, and the night elf male was changed to worgen male. Seriously, a worgen? a dwarf or gnome, or another human/night elf would had made more sence.
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306612
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Post by
Skreeran
Eh, on the subject of Worgen on the Lost Isles, I just figure that the Worgen starting zone happened a little before the Goblin one.
The sinking of Gilneas doesn't necessarily have to come from Deathwing's actual emergence, if there is a conflict there, it might have been just a particularly rough earthquake, I suppose.
Or, now that I think about it, it's possible that the Worgen starter zone happened during the
actual
Shattering, when Deathwing burst forth from the Maelstrom, and Kezan happened a bit later (after all Deathwing is already out and flying about; don't ask me why Kezan was practically untouched before that, though...).
I don't think Cataclysm starts 3 years after the Shattering, though. That just doesn't make sense. You're telling me that the Earthen Ring just sat around with their thumbs up their asses for three years.
And the Forsaken don't seem to have been at war with Gilneas for three straight years. They would have cleared all the Worgen out by now if it had been that long.
I can believe, say, 2-6 months between the Shattering and Cataclysm (leaning more toward sooner than later, imo), because there are stone fortresses that the Alliance has built in the Barrens that weren't there before, and you can't do that in a week, but it's definitely not 3 years.
Post by
Rankkor
back in beta, the 3 targets of that quest were a human male, a night elf male, and a draenei female.
the draenei was changed to a nightelf female, and the night elf male was changed to worgen male. Seriously, a worgen? a dwarf or gnome, or another human/night elf would had made more sence.
That was probably changed because they didn't want the Worgen to go the way of the Draenei - unused and forgotten.
That, and Draenei Rogues don't exist (they should, though! If orcs can be rogues, so can Draenei!)
actually back in the beta, the targets weren't rogues.
the human was a warrior, the night elf was a mage, and the draenei was a paladin.
the current quest has all 3 of them as rogues of diferent specs, the worgen is sub, the human is combat and the night elf is assassination.
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306612
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Post by
Adamsm
Tol'vir.
Post by
Interest
Tol'vir.
Too bad the lore of them isn't going to make them any less hated by Archeologists.
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306612
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Post by
Adamsm
You hate everything Sigma.
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306612
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Post by
Monday
That's annoying, I agree. I really want to start Nerubian/Draenei.
But I can't.
/annoyed.
Post by
Behelich
You'll get epics.
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