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A previously secret daughter of a high-ranking general in the Scarlet Crusade. She was robbed of her childhood by he father's hatred of the undead and raised as a weapon against them. At some point in her mid teens, she died and was raised into undeath as a Forsaken.
I can't find her quest but that doesn't seem to warrant such a
title
. Is she just crazy strong?
And able to phase through solid objects, burn bodies with a purple flame, jump impossibly high, can kill multiple creatures with one blow, and when she was alive, was trained as a rogue, a martial arts master, a tactician, and quite a few other things.......in other words, Sue Queen.
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And able to phase through solid objects, burn bodies with a purple flame, jump impossibly high, can kill multiple creatures with one blow, and when she was alive, was trained as a rogue, a martial arts master, a tactician, and quite a few other things.......in other words, Sue Queen.
Or faction leader level.
And you sure about phasing through solid objects? Because, given the quest description at wowpedia, it sounds more like stealth to me.
If I was to describe Lilian Voss, she's a Warmage that actually fights like a Rogue on the melee department.
EDIT 3: Oh, and her page says nothing about tactical lectures. She was trained to be a killing machine, not a commander.
She leaps through the bars of her cage, then leaps back in; it's a phased thing. She's still a Sue, and on a different level then the Night Elf Hearing Red Haired or the Mageshamdin. I'm really hoping it wasn't a serious thing.....
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A single mage can become invisible, manipulate other's magic, enchant, summon fire, frost, thunder and arcane from the air for a number of optimizable purposes, warp the pattern of time, teleport and open portals, rearrange one's form, conjure entire feasts, create illusions, perform shielding, divine into the unknown, summon and control elementals, dispell curses and fuel entire armies of magic as to improve their spellcasting or even their overall battle prowess.*
And you're saying Lilian Voss is a sue because she's much like a master rogue who learned sorcery enough to craft some pitiful purple flames? Sure, she's not your average joe Footman - but she's not a Heinz Hybrid with the combined power of a former guardian, six of the greatest spellcasters in the world and wields Light, Arcane and Shamanistic magic - as well as mastered the martial arts.
* - some of these are limited to more experienced arcanists, such as Archmages.
Keep in mind that she's in her mid-teens.And those 'pitiful purple flames' as you call them, incinerate the body with one touch; she's also nearly always in the Shadow form like a Shadow Priest. Go do the quests Delt, and you'll see, she's not 'just a rogue' or a warmage, but something more.
And Delt...Med'an doesn't know martial arts...that Voss who says she's skilled in them as well.
If I was to describe Lilian Voss, she's a Warmage that actually fights like a Rogue on the melee department.
Keep in mind that she's in her mid-teens.
Not that it changes things as much as it seems, but where did you see this?
In the entire f-ing quest zone.....
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Again, instead of just reading about her, go do the quests.
Edit:
So far Lilian Voss can:
Either is a warrior with heroic leap or a master rogue.
Who can cast immolate.
And uses Shadow Form.
Also one-shots npcs like every npc of importance, and caster lorewise, in the game.
Yay, so overpowered.You left out the fact that she can Mass Death Grip, then instant kill them when 5+ targets reach her, so she's also a Death Knight on top of being a RogMagest.
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I'm the most anti-Lilian Voss person on the face of this planet. For no apparent reason other than because she's a shallow character that everyone loves
just because she make things burn in purple fire.
WHO CARES.
And yes, now that you mention it, she is a sue, especially if she's just a kid. ._.
It's not even the fact she's a kid who burns things in purple fire. She was the daughter of a high-ranking Scarlet Crusader who was
raised in secret
and conveniently brought into Cataclysm.
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You guys aren't happy with anything... :P
I haven't seen Lilian Voss in-game yet, but I'm not all that opposed to her.
Thrall was 18 and a virtually undefeated Gladiator when he became Warchief, Shaman, and leveled Durnholde to the ground, and yet we like him.
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So if Lilian got good character development (which is admittedly unlikely, based on Blizzard's current treatment of characters) and her sueish qualities were applied wisely, she might end up being a good character?
I'm just against blanket condemnation, is all.
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