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Wouldn't it be a bit far fetched that an arcane curse would grant you affinity to an art that requires a faith which your culture doesn't allow you to understand?
Uh Delt, I hate to say this but.... it's Magic lol. Technically the Curse itself seems to be a combination of magics; Arcane as the Base, Shadow for the Worgen essence, something tied to the Moon/moonlight for the transformation(going off the original worgens in pyrewood or whatever the village near SFK is); that much mix and matching, who knows what the final thing is going to be.
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And there's a logic behind Nature magic, it is divine and requires faith. Generally, the only factions that could understand nature worshiping culture in the old Alliance of Lordaeron were Quel'thalas and the Wildhammer dwarves - which even made these two friends to some extent.
Affinity with Nature magic is cultural and not magical like affinity with Arcana not matter how ridiculously random the final result for the curse can be.
Well, it can't be completely just cultural; after all, Illidan failed royally at learning Druidic magic, but he was a master of Arcane. It probably does have something to do with the racial abilities as well; otherwise you'd see Orc and Ogre druids: Both races who have a connection to Nature and the Spirits.
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Orcs worshipped nature though. They had the spirits of Fire, Air, Earth, Water, and The Wild, which represented animals and plants.
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One of my belief's possible mistakes is the Draenei. A culture filled with Arcane and the Holy Light suddenly has these many shamans? Well, given the fact that it was only implemented because Blizzard wanted to kill faction specific classes, I'd say that its either a lore mistake or an huge exception.You have read
Unbroken
right Delt?
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I'd still say that the Draenei are an exception, if I remember correctly the first draenei trainer also say that very few draenei practice and respect shamanism. So this class / race combo may exist because its iconic only and not a large part of the race, the only other example I can think of are the Blood Elf Farstriders.
Well, it's like the Tauren Druids; there are only about what lorewise; around 100-200 at most so far compared to the hundreds of Night Elf ones? At most it's only about 2-3% of the Draenei so far are shamans(lorewise).
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Where does it say that shamans are 1 - 2 percent of their population and that tauren druids are between 100 and 200 of their population?
Probably just common sense. The Tauren and Draenei have small populations. And there are less Shamans per warriors than people think.
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Alright, might be a bit high for the Druids, but not the Draenei: remember, the Draenei are the least populous race on Azeroth, like far below even the High Elves.
But Runetotem re-learned druidism from Malfurion, and most of the Draenei shaman trainers are Broken as opposed to whole ones.
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They wouldn't be a playable race if they were below the high elves. I personally believe that the supposed quel'dorei population of 20,000 + was retconned and they would be lucky if there are more than a few hundreds of them.
Casters are rare by themselves, now a rare magical practice would be kinda below 2%... wouldn't it?
Can't really tell; but consider the Draenei itself; most of them are either members of the Light(paladins/priests) or Arcanist; with a smaller sect of them being warriors and a lower group following the path of the Hunter(as we know it on Azeroth) and the Shaman.
But yeah, we need a new population number soon.
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Arcanists and Paladins are too rare to outnumber warriors, consider the elven culture: mages don't outnumber warriors.
Even so, a 1 - 2 percent feels too high to me, considering that its rare among the rarest.
That's Elves, not Draenei. The Warrior caste is in the lowest numbers for them.
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I wouldn't say that draenei 'obsession' for the Light is so great that something rare among everyone else outnumbers the most common warrior of all. It gets worse if you consider that Paladins are priests in times of war and that the Draenei army isn't even a shadow of its former self.
It does though Delt: Think about Rise of the Horde; a simple hunting group had magi with them capable of creating the special net used to save Durotan and Doomhammer from the rampaging Ogre. The Draenei magic was so feared that the warlocks were created from all Clans Shamans to equal it; which means there must have been enough of them to be with every assault group.
But, and here's the thing; 80% of the race was killed during the Draenor war, another 5% devolved into the Broken. Then, 20-25 odd years pass, Illidan arrives, the Blood Elves wage war on the 'true draenei', another 3rd of their race is wiped out.
It's not that hard to believe that most of the army are the Vindicators(paladins) and the battle priests and magi. Again, if you look at the NPC's in Azuremyst, Bloodmyst and Exodar itself; most are caster types, either paladins, magi, shaman, or priest, with a lower group as Warriors and Hunters.
It's just the way society is set up.
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