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Does Thorns scale with spell power?
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Post by
curlymon
Yes it does scale with spell power.
The Talents do increase it quite a bit more.
Post by
hashmel
thorns has a 3.3% spell damage
coefficient
thorns (rank 8)
with brambles would deal * 1.75 = T
T=reflective damage from thorns
if the recipient of thorns has any additional damage modifiers or the attacker has any damage multiplier debuffs those would also be factored in at the time of the reflective damage
say you slap thorns on a death knight in blood presence
T * 1.15 = R
R=reflective damage from thorns while the death knight is in blood presence
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Post by
pelf
If the thorns buff doesn't fade when you respec, it's probably an oversight as I don't think Blizzard has the technology to modify the ... modifiers and multipliers on a buff after it has been established.
Anyway, after being pedantic, my point is that if it doesn't go away, it's probably still the buffed one.
You could test it pretty easily though with some trash mobs out in the world. Why don't you? :) I'd be curious to find out.
Post by
hashmel
i do the same when i'm just wasting time, say when i'm waiting on someone to help summon the lazy people
pop into moonkin, spam something on a mob or dummy till i get several SP procs then pop thorns and go back to bear
it's not really needed but while i'm waiting around i might as well do it instead of leaning back in my chair
Post by
Katsudon
Thorns buff does not fade on respec and it does indeed stay the same strength as when it was cast (and since it does get effected by SP - casting in resto gear/spec then shifting is a good idea)
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Post by
GreatePier
The buff doesnt fade on respec and it uses the spellpower on cast.
However i believe if you cast the buff while talented in Brambles for the increased damage and then respec where you no longer have the talent... even though the buff stays on you do not maintain the higher damage from the talents.
So only talent it if you actually plan to use it in that talent spec.
I think that's very likely, given that a Warlock's
Master Conjuror
talent behaves exactly like that (add 240 haste in one spec, switch specs and even when applied the bonus drops to 60)
Post by
Slimda
I switch to healing-gear in tank-spec, buff myself with Thorns (yay for 130 ticks!) and go back to tank-gear.
Or I just get the resto-druids to cast it on me.
Post by
hashmel
the above post regarding brambles and changing specs is correct, it will not remove the buff but it will remove any benefit from the talent
the only buffs that will be removed upon spec change seem to be buffs learned from a talent such as seal of command or blessing of sanctuary and raidwide buffs such as greater blessings, prayers, and gift of the wild type abilities
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