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PvP Kitty - Berserking vs. Massacre
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Post by
skribs
Trying to figure out whether Berserking (1.2 PPM for +400 AP and -5% of your armor over 15 seconds) or Massacre (110 AP) is better for a feral kitty. Sort of a question, but I'm gonna do a bit of rough math while I'm at it.
Assuming 1.2 PPM, that's 50 sec per proc on auto-attacks only, or a 2% chance to proc at 1.0 attack speed. With 100% time on target, and ~40 energy per attack, this results in 15 additional attacks per minute, totalling 75 attacks. At 2% chance per minute, that's 150% chance per minute, or 40 seconds to proc the 15 second buff, resulting in 37.5% up-time under perfect conditions. This of course doesn't include effects like tiger's fury or berserk, but this is just a quick crunch. 0.375x400=150 AP average under perfect conditions.
The ToT here is less than you'll read other classes say they have, because those other classes use much slower weapons. If you have a 4.0 attack speed (granted, you wont at 80, but for sake of arguement) and still have 15 instants/min, you're looking at 8% proc instead of 2% proc, and then that translates into 240% chance of proc/minute (30 attacks = 15 instant + 15 auto * 0.08 proc chance per hit), which means 25 sec per proc, or 60% up-time.
Now, I'm assuming I wont have 100% time on target or time in form. It's easily possible I will be CC'd right after a proc, and will be stunlocked with 5% less armor. The burst isn't controllable - if it procs outside of my CD's its less damage.
However, when it does proc its quite a bit more burst. If I use my CDs around it, then I will get more damage done during the CD. And hopefully my ToT is pretty good between IW and 45% faster movement.
But what do you guys think? I saw Berserk linked in the stickied post, but I personally like the look of Massacre - considering the abysmal proc chance on a 1.0 attack.
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Post by
skribs
Ah ok. All the info I saw said 1.2 PPM, if it is really 33% proc chance and 45 sec ICD then I do like it better.
Post by
Heckler
While I'm not attempting to get into the nitty-gritty of this comparison, it should be noted that
Predatory Strikes
buffs Massacre, but NOT Berserking. This means 110 AP is actually 132 AP before counting HotW (which affects both).
So if you're willing to accept the rough guess from Cemi that Berserking is 120, Massacre is better at 132.
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Post by
Lightrain
The reason I like berserking is because I play the game of get out of combat, restealth, and re open on target. The bonus of this is usually berserking and my Grim Toll proc at the same time right after I pounce. Not to mention you can save your TF bursts for when you see berserking proc.
Either way, it's your preference. Both are nearly equal in benefits to damage, berserking is a bit more bursty, which is what pvp is all about IMO.
Post by
Zarantai
from what I've experienced, berserking has no internal CD
Berserk spell page
Post by
Lightrain
from what I've experienced, berserking has no internal CD
Berserk spell page
It does.
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