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Post by
thrakx
So i was wondering, since i keep most of my Passwords in a txt file, and usually copy/paste them into my login screens, does this make it harder for some one to get into my stuff if i DID pick up a keylogger? Or am i just spinning my wheels aimlessly?
I was just curious.
Also to peopl who have the authenticator; i dont know if it costs anything, but is it pretty easy to set up and use?
Yes, i KNOW i could google it, but i want to ask some one who uses it before i decide to put it on my phone.
Post by
Starkie
As far as I know, copy/paste would be the same as typing it into the text box. I don't think it's any safer.
And yes, the authenticator is a great product, it's only 6 bucks, and is a great asset in keeping your account safe, good luck getting one though, they always seem to be sold out.
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Post by
thrakx
As far as I know, copy/paste would be the same as typing it into the text box. I don't think it's any safer.
And yes, the authenticator is a great product, it's only 6 bucks, and is a great asset in keeping your account safe, good luck getting one though, they always seem to be sold out.
thanks for the replies guys much appreciated. Now i'm just trying to wrap my mind around this whole "authenticator sells out" thing.... So a digital item, that generates(im assuming) a random code- sells out of itunes, where it costs about 6$?
Anyone know WHY exactly they sell out? Besides the obvious everyone wants one. Is it hard to code one of those? I'm not trying to QQ here im just really curious now. I mean i know there is a TON of subscribers, but is this thing really so hard to make and attach to an account that they can only sell a smallish number per day/week/month? Also if anyone knows at what time they would show up in itunes when there are more?
Also starkie, or anyone who is knowledgable about such things: Can you give me a reason why copy/paste would be the same as typing your info into a txt box? As far as I ever knew keyloggers log your keystrokes. Granted im not really that smart about these things, but wouldnt it just log a CTRL+V or C, or even nothing if you used the mouse alone?
Still a little curious here so anyone with any more answers thanks in advance!
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Post by
thrakx
hmm. Well i have an iphone and before the first posters here said anything i WAS under the impression that it was a free download from itunes. When they said 6$ it just made me wonder if they started charging for it.
I can go to my itunes and get it like super easy and most likely will. Im just still wondering about my other copy/paste questions, and if blizz makes no money off the product, then who IS making money off it? how does that even work?
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Post by
Chocodave
As far as I can tell... a keylogger records every
keystoke
you make. So if you copy/paste stuff into the password box, the most it should see is Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.
But!
Keyloggers are becoming more and more intelligent. They are known to even take screenshots to capture drop down menus (afaik).
Also, surely if you're worried about a keylogger, you should have the same fear for trojans and hackers... Storing all your passwords into a single txt file isnt the BEST idea ever in my opinion :S
As for blizzards authenticator... Ugh. I've paid for mine, and its spent the last two months "processing" . Means blizz wont cancel the order as its gone through to shipping. They have my money, I dont have my product :( . However, the authenticator for the iphone is amazing! Free download, works almost instantly, I'm just worried about when I need to wipe the phone or when i lose it.
Post by
Kalisha
hmm. Well i have an iphone and before the first posters here said anything i WAS under the impression that it was a free download from itunes. When they said 6$ it just made me wonder if they started charging for it.
I think there was simply a miscommunication between your first post and the replies. The $6 version that people are mentioning is the physical one that gets mailed to you from the Blizzard store (and the one most people are familiar with). The download from itunes is still free and you don't have to worry about them not being in stock.
And yes, it's super easy to set up and use. The added security is so worth having to type in a few numbers when you log in.
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Post by
xaratherus
As far as I can tell... a keylogger records every keystoke you make. So if you copy/paste stuff into the password box, the most it should see is Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.
But!
Keyloggers are becoming more and more intelligent. They are known to even take screenshots to capture drop down menus (afaik).
It's not safe to assume that a keylogger will only record your keystrokes anymore. As you said, they are becoming more intelligent, and one of the common back-ups in a keylogger nowadays is to go and pull a copy of your clipboard when you paste something into the field that it is monitoring. So from that point of view, a copy-paste is not always a safe bet.
Post by
dhampir1989
They sell out because the manufacterers are a tiny company :)
Post by
skipy
Just a heads up, they are in stock atm
http://www.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000622
I bougth one some weeks ago and they havent been out of stock since, I think the mobile ones are growing in popularity reducing the demand for the physical ones, also the one for the iphone/ipod touch has 8 characters, and the "classic" has only 6.
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Post by
thrakx
ok cool all questions answered. Correct about the mis-communication. I hadnt realized at first it was an actual little plastic dealy. I figured the only authenticator would be a digital one like for a phone or something.
Muuuuuch easier. Good old iphone comes through again.
I will get that one for sure.
@everyone else: thanks for the good keylogger info. I had a feeling they could prolly get your clipboard info somehow, i just wasnt sure. Screenshot it you say? Yeah Aholes are getting smarter.
Well thats pretty much all questions answered satisfactorally, so thanks a bunch.
*goes to itunes*
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