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Laihendi
we need a white appreciation day.
No... people just need to end the black, gay, and all the other appreciation/pride months/days... if people want to be treated equal, ultimately they have to act equal.
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Laihendi put his seal on the RB and it's been locked twice... but it was probably the prestige of the Seal that got it unlocked. If Laihendi took it away, that thread wouldn't last a day >.>
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Ganit
If you honestly feel you felt the discrimination that non-whites face in the western world (although, mostly America unfortuantly) then I'm afraid you're delusional.
I never claimed I've had the worst of the worst discrimination. But I have been called honkey, cracker, or whatever else. Yeah, they don't bother me, but that's not the point. Anyone calling me these names would be trying to elicit the same response that you'd get calling a black person the N-word. My point was not that I've had a hard life of being discriminated against constantly, just that I HAVE been discriminated against. You seem to think this is lesser because I'm white? That's racist.
I think you're fibbing. Where do you live?
While I'm not giving out that specific of information, it's in North Carolina. The general area isn't that demographic, but due to busing routes and odd school districts those are the statistics on the school. If you still refuse to believe me, that's fine.
Well, no, because minorities have a much harder time, well, doing anything in a large amount of America, because of racisim.
No. Just no. You mean to tell me that some board of admissions for a college is going to take a white kid with a GPA of 2.5 over a black kid with a GPA of 4.0 JUST because he checked the African-American box on the application his transcript's attached to? Hell, if he's that concerned about it, a lot of those forms now have a "does not wish to answer" box.
Soon, no one living will be able to remember the holocaust first hand. I guess that means Nazism will be a-ok? *GODWIN*First off, you're reaching here. Secondly, you're lame for feeling the need to use a Nazi-based argument. What I mean by reaching is that you know full well I'm not claiming slavery is ok, nor is Nazism (with you, I probably need to make sure I make it clear I don't support Hitler). What I DID mean is that we shouldn't give the money to a kid that isn't as fit for the scholarship just because he's black. If the black kid deserves it, let him win it on fair ground. Don't take the white guy out of the race just because he's white... That's racist.
Everyone is born equally. They are not treated equally by, well, the world, because of their skin colour.You're actually wrong here. Some people are born smarter, some more athletic, some rich, some poor--this crosses the boundaries of race. Then the world responds to them based on these strengths and weaknesses. Yes, there are some people out there that would not give the position to a more capable person because they're not white, but there's a non-white guy out there that wouldn't hire a white guy for just the same reason. It goes both ways, you seem want to not notice that...
Slavery is not and never was the only problem black people have had to face and it's history is certainly not why they may require help of the state at some point.
You seem to beleive that apart from some crack pots in shacks in the middle of nowhere, racisim is dead. It is not. For example, why do you think a black man is more likely to be convicted of a crime? Or that black families are on average in a harder position than white famalies? Because racism still exists today, in large (but not as obvious) forms, and I feel that if we can provide them help, we should do.No it's not, but it's the most frequently pointed to issue. Also, it's about the only one that white people haven't experienced as well. Why might they require aid? Because they're poor? Hey! I know poor white people. With the exception of slavery, the reasons to require aid cross the boundaries of race.
No, I don't believe that. It's just not as prevalent in the world as you act like it is. Why is a black man more likely to be convicted of a crime? Because of African-American culture. Black culture is all about being a G (Note I speak from an American perspective). Yes, there are exceptions to the rule but turn on MTV, BET, walk through a mall... Most of these guys are just looking the part--but when the majority of your culture presents itself in the light of being a thug and then you get placed on the stand for doing something a thug would do, you're probably going to be thought of as a thug. I know, I know that wasn't PC--so sue me. Also, I'm aware there are white thugs but it's not as common. That's not what's seen as white culture on the whole. Yes, that means there's a damn good chance an upstanding black man is more likely to be convicted because of how black culture is seen. However, white people aren't giving off the image of black culture. That's not white people keeping black people down, that's black people keeping black people down.
My comments in the last paragraph largely answer this. Because when you're culture is all about being a gangster... well, college doesn't usually get associate with being a thug, now does it?
One final thing: Deepthought, I must admit, I'm curious as to what demographic you fall in. If you'd be willing to share that, I'd appreciate it.
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Cambo
No... people just need to end the black, gay, and all the other appreciation/pride months/days... if people want to be treated equal, ultimately they have to act equal.
I love Laihendi. Laihendi is correct. Can he has a shiny medal?
I'm middle-class 'caucasian' male born and raised in New Zealand. My white ancestors had their share of plundering, raping and murdering the natives.
I think the world races and peoples that us Euro's have marginalised deserve some appreciation days. But in majority of western countries, most represented people groups have equal rights. Read books, go to school, get a job, manage your money = success in life. Regardless of race or skin color or sexual orientation preference.
But gay rights are different. We don't treat gays any different today than we did 60 years ago, but these days they are making a big song and dance and just want to be seen. If we were slaughtering them in the millions, then yes, by all means, campaign for justice and recognition. But you weren't really marginalised were you? No? I thought so!
On slavery: It's not much different than sitting in an office working a menial day job for a CEO. Even the Bible isn't against slavery, as long as you look after the slave! If the slave is happy, then it shouldn't be a crime.
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Cambo
Sorry for the double-post.
But in regards to the original quoted 'speech'.
It smacks of racism. Really.
Full of bitterness, tall-poppy syndrome and disdain.
Get to know an asian person, arab person, african person, pacific island person. They aren't inferior. They just live differently.
L2b a loving, kind human. Kthxbai.
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Did anyone else notice the censorship? $%^&*!, beaner (<---- first one was Black Dude in an offensive word)
wowhead discriminates Mexicans... /sarcasm
I am Mexican and by no means I get offended if I am called names, I simply just dont care, everytime I go to USA y always find people who threat me like $%^& for my nationality, and guess who are they, yup mexicans, mexicans who live in the states think they're better than me, and threat me like that, usually americans are nicer than them, my point here is that the mayority of racist people are the minoritys, and I dont just say it, I have seen it first hand, the same happens with black people they discriminate each other more than a white man discriminates another one. it seems that every minority despises their own kind.
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When I joined the military, I was excited. I was 'gung ho'. After boot camp, and tech school, I was given my assignment to work in a shop, disassembling bomb racks, at Edwards AFB, California. I got there, and on the first day of work, I showed up early. I got there 45 minutes before work started. No one else was there. I sat down at one of the empty chairs and waited.
Pretty soon, everyone filed in. I was so excited. The chairs filled up quickly, and people started working. Everyone was laughing and joking, but I noticed that no one greeted me, the new guy. I was still 17 years old, and really nervous at my first job.
Then, this really big guy told me I was in the wrong chair, and that I had to go sit 'over there', and he pointed at a tiny desk in the corner, where this other guy was working alone. I went over there, and had a seat. The young man in the corner greeted me and explained to me that it was 'because we were white'. I realized then, that everyone else in the room, besides him and I, was black.
I volunteered to serve my country. I was willing to put my life on the line. I had dreams of risking everything in some daring display of commradery. Instead, my first experience was being discriminated against because of my color.
It didn't matter though, I was transfered out within a month, with derogatory comments about 'not meeting performance standards'. I don't know how someone who has worked somewhere less than a month, and is still in training can 'not meet performance standards'. That one line followed me everywhere I went. Every supervisor that read my folder saw that line. It made it very hard for me to succeed anywhere I went after that, and is part of the reason I got out of the military. That racism changed me, and my future.
When I finally did become a sergeant, and I got 'my' first troop, he was black. I bent over backward to make sure that man was treated according to his merit, which was excellent. He got rapidly promoted. I believe he is married with kids now, not unlike me.
I don't think that black people are racist. I don't think that white people are racist. I think that people are racist. The whole thing is wildly stupid. If someone is ignorant enough to be racist, they are just doing it because their parents taught them too, or out of retaliation. Neither are good reasons.
I have had the blunt end of racism more than once in my life (3 to be exact), but I refuse to actively perpetuate that attitude.
As for the OP: If you need a social display (WET, white pride, white history month) to make yourself feel equal, that is sad. I feel the same for people who need BET, black pride, etc, or people that have gay pride parades, or people that have to get 'in your face' to make themselves feel equal. Go home and spend time with your kids instead, you scum.
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