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Problems Healing H TOC
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Post by
amythist
My Armory before I forget about it
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Elune&n=Birel
I've had no problem healing before, but the other day I went to heal H ToC and completely got demolished, have DPSed it before as Ele so know the fights and such, couldn't even get past the first boss, the 3 champions in this case Mage/Warrior/Rogue, I dropped cleansing totem to deal with the poison, but even with Heroism I could not keep up against the damage both tank and AOE that was being dished out, I checked after the fact and the tank was a bit undergeared, only about 25K HP and like 505 def, but I wouldn't think that would make that much difference. What, if any, gear changes would you suggest, or is there jsut some trick to that combo that I don't know about.
TLDR: Wasn't able to heal Mage/Warrior/Rogue combo in H TOC, HELP
quick addition, gear wise do you think I could start healing Ulduar, have healed in everything below it with no real problem, so am wondering if I can pull it off
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Post by
lucius
You are also quite dependant on the stupidity of your melee / dps. The rogue will drop poison vials on the ground, the warrior will whirlwind. Melee love to stand in both of these effects. The warrior will also sometimes bladestorm towards a caster. All they have to do is move out of his way but they'll often just stand there and get blown up.
Tank hp/defense matter. When mobs can hit him for 1/4 of his hitpoints, a crit will empty half of his lifebar. A situation like that means you have to spam heals on the tank, but since all of these mobs do a fair amount of aoe damage, your dps will die.
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Post by
savagy
ToC, however easy it is, I think has some nice boss fights...
Dealing with the champions could get tricky sometimes - rogue is pesky with his FoK - Deadly Poison and Poison Bottles on the ground. The warrior has a deadly Whirlwind / Bladestorm thing which hits quite hard. The mage is kind of ez. When Im healing on my shaman and we have to deal with mage I put him on focus and interrupt as much as poss while purging his haste. Also, make sure to purge lightning arrows on the hunter and purge / interrupt shammy.
I have found out that we shammy healers might not be the best healers purely at that, but we bring much help to the group generally.
Anyway, hope this helped at all :)
Post by
lucius
If you take the word I hear/read a log that seemed legit, there was a guild who downed Yogg(+4, I highly doubt you can do less with the gear they had) with ONLY blues, no epics, on all 10 of the raid members.
So yes, by those people it's been proven you can survive in blues through class synergies and player skills.
Reminds me of the whole "chinese guild killed illidan wearing T3" misinformation that was spread around. No one has killed Yogg wearing blues. You wouldn't have the dps, healing, or required tank HP.
Post by
nossy
Umm..Tank need to run reg TOC to get some gear before going HTOC haha.
If you can't get past this, how can you deal with Paletress (if you are lucky enough!)?
High DPS, good awareness, and a good tank = easier to heal.
Post by
Killianblack
My alt is a warrior and I hit the Def cap literally 5min after I hit 80. I wonder about tanks like these sometimes...
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
To all the people saying the tank is undergeared for H ToC, I honestly don't think that is the case. I was 4-manning H ToC within a day or two of hitting 80 with 22.5k-ish hp and 525ish def. The other 3 members had also hit 80 within that week (rogue, ele shaman, disc priest). Also notice the lack of AoE and the lack of AoE heals.
It took a lot of team-work and coordination, but we pulled it off and have been 4-manning it ever since.
In short what I'm trying to say is that you can't always blame gear or the lack of dps or the lack of aoe heals or whatever everyone else is blaming their H ToC wipes on. Teamwork and comunication can make up for a lot.
Post by
amythist
thanks for all the responses, I figured I'd ask since the group did the standard thing and tried to blame me for the failure, even though I was doing everything I could to keep them alive
and yeah to make issues worse with it the group was all melee dps and I don't remember a single one moving out of any of the AOE attacks or poison cloud
and yup I fully planned on getting that emblem totem next, just need 1 more heroic after the server comes up (Elune got extended maintenance today), might try going in as my ele spec first and see if I can pick up some gear before trying to heal it
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Post by
Dan21
If you take the word I hear/read a log that seemed legit, there was a guild who downed Yogg(+4, I highly doubt you can do less with the gear they had) with ONLY blues, no epics, on all 10 of the raid members.
So yes, by those people it's been proven you can survive in blues through class synergies and player skills.
Reminds me of the whole "chinese guild killed illidan wearing T3" misinformation that was spread around. No one has killed Yogg wearing blues. You wouldn't have the dps, healing, or required tank HP.
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2009/08/ungeared.html
They did indeed clear all of Ulduar 10 in blues.
On topic: If the tank was crittable, he was undergeared, and it wasn't your fault.
Post by
cosmicguen
As everyone has pointed out; fail group. DPS didn't move out of the !@#$ing fire, tank wasn't geared for it (and I suspect he was as stupid as the DPS as well).
If you want a 'trick' for that combo with a melee-heavy group, there's one we use a lot (often our only ranged group member is the healer, for some reason).
Keep the warrior seperated from the rest of the group. Either have someone tank him off to the side, or have someone kite him around, whichever your group can manage.
The upside to this tactic is that the group can burn down the rogue and mage super-fast, as they're not randomly being thrown around (always,
always
into the damn green puddle) and can control the fight so much easier. Once those two are down you can roflstomp the warrior with ease as you're not trying to heal through poison/magic damage on top of the whirlwind. People still have to get out of the whirlwind though >.>
It can be a bit tricky to heal this way, simply because you've still got big damage to deal with in the main group, and the OT/kiter is going to be popping in and out of range of heals as he runs/gets thrown around, but I think the shammy is best suited to this type of healing anyway.
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lucius
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2009/08/ungeared.html
I ated my words, and thanks for the link.
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