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So yea gear tells us nothing now
i bet you were the best healer in the game the first time you tried it.
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Jita
ToC seems to give people a lot of trouble on heroic. I'm still working on my tank set (my trinkets are pathetic atm) but with
this gear
I haven't had any problem tanking other heroics.
Today I got booted after we wiped two times on the first group of bosses. The priest informs me that I'm "way undergeared" despite having 33k hp in group and ~36% dodge. From what I could tell (as I wasn't lead) it had more to do with the bosses not being marked so no one focused on targets in the right order, and melee dps regularly standing in the whirlwind.
Is a tank who's fine in every other heroic useless in ToC? I didn't think the gap was that wide, having healed ToC many many times before trying to tank it.
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Rengarde
Well, ToC is a challenge.
As a druid healer, never try to heal the Dark Knight unless you have good DPS. The diseases that the Dark Knight applies to your tank stacks, so if your DPS are not well geared..... then your tank will die to the diseases. A pally healer doesn't have this problem, as he can just dispel the diseases, but druids can't.
I figured this out when I tried to heal the Dark Knight with a group that the tank was second in DPS with about 1.5k. The highest DPS was the original healer who changed to boomkin, they did 1.9k or so. The others..... 1k or less.
I got saved to it with no bosses downed for me.....
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Llora
The priest informs me that I'm "way undergeared" despite having 33k hp in group and ~36% dodge.
Thats just crazy. I got "hijacked" into ToC heroic once ( I was in lfg for normal, but the guy who asked me just said "ilvl 200 suit might be good enough, let's try " ... 27k HP, 22% dodge without buffs)
We managed to get trough, it was really hard and we did wipe a few times, but at least one of the dps had pretty bad gear for this instance, too.
Cant see how you can be " way undergeared". Are people really that spoiled by easymode heroics?
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Llora
I think he means 33k HP and 36% dodge as feral.
/facepalm
Yeah, didn't notice that he seems to be Feral, even though he only mentioned dogde.
Plus i got my own stats wrong. Prot Pally, 26k Hp, 21% dodge, 18% parry, 17,5% block. (no buffs, no holy shield up, Craft , Heroic 5man, Faction gear)
Ok, I don't really have a clue about Druids, so I can't compare.
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I think he means 33k HP and 36% dodge as feral. Thats pretty ordinary for geared feral. Hp is pretty low even. Got more on warrior and I dont wear anything from conquest/triumph or ulduar and up.
Yeah, failed to mention that those stats are in bear form. BTW I'm now up to 35k health in groups with a priest, which I would say is slightly above average for most heroic pugs.
Your last sentence doesn't make any sense. According to your armory you
do
wear lots of Naxx 25 and badge gear, which would of course be upgrades from the average level of gear I have. If you meant to say you don't have anything that's higher level than badge and Naxx gear, fair play, but you should realise that's still better than what most people who aren't in raid-focused guilds will be carrying.
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