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Worgen Warrior...bonus for being DPS?
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Shiverlynn
My reasoning is, does anyone want to see a Worgen tank?
Yeah. I'm actually considering rerolling worgen female tank. No joking.
So you say that because Worgen look beastly they shouldn't be able to be tanks but only DPS because it fits the looks? That's not going to happen. If this is your point, I understand it, but
1) from the same point of view dwarves should only being tanks because they're tough, and orcs should only being DPS too like the worgen. It's flawed at some point. There are exceptions all over the place, in RL and IG.
2) we should have the freedom of choice. If you aren't a tank and don't want to tank, I'm absolutely okay with it. If other people aren't happy with the fact you're DPSing, screw them, you play the game the way you want to play it.
and hate the fact that the mere option of tanking is ultimately removing DPS from the class we love to play.
I fail to see how the fact that there's a Protection tree removes the other two. Once again, nobody prevents you from being DPS. If some people think that if you're a warrior you tank, then get new friends.
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Now maybe I'm wrong and you weren't complaining about the fact that warriors get forced to tank because of their class. You just want the Prot tree to be unavailable to the worgen because they look too "barbarian" to wear shields.
Then my point 1) up there still applies. In addition, now I can think of other restrictions that should be made if your logic were to be applied.
Forsaken priests shouldn't be able to be Holy or Disc.
Troll priests shouldn't be able to be Holy.
All the Alliance priests shouldn't be able to be Shadow.
Tauren druids shouldn't be able to be Balance.
NE warriors shouldn't be able to be Fury.
Gnome mages shouldn't be able to be Fire or Frost.
The list could go on. But then the game would be terribly monotone and also way more unbalanced than it already is. They're actually
adding
new race/class combinations to keep the game diversified, yet you want to prevent a class from fulfilling a role, a role it had had since Vanilla by the way.
To sum it up, if they ever release a race change feature I'm sure to try Worgen out.
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skumbananer
Warrior tanking is not about being a sissy hiding behind a shield, its about being as agressive as possible, charging in, fighting alone face to face to monsters while rogues and rogues-in-plate sneak around and attack from the back and screams like little girls as soon as they get the tiniest scratch.
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Dralas
Warrior tanking is not about being a sissy hiding behind a shield, its about being as agressive as possible, charging in, fighting alone face to face to monsters while rogues and rogues-in-plate sneak around and attack from the back and screams like little girls as soon as they get the tiniest scratch.
lol, actually we do hide behind shields. You're thinking of Druid and DK tanks, it's a common misconception.
So you'd want to be fighting full on against something that's only targeting you without a wall of steel to help you not get decapitated?
Druids just go "meh" when they are hit, DK's... dont' know what the hell they are doing.
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Rubendesmet619
I think I can follow you tbh.
F.ex. each side wil have 6 warriors(12races, al races can be warriors).
Orc is like Worgen and Dreane=tauren.
Orc/Worgen can be the sort of pure DPS warrior while the taurentype can be "the ultimate tank"
IF they could do this for just about every spec hybrids would be able to compete BUT an orc wil stil be able to tank. To get over in blizzardterms so to speak an Orc while tanking wil take about 5% more damage and an orc DOS'ing wil do about 5% more damage to be in line with pure DPS classes.
While this is just an idea and such. I wouldn't mind it one bit. races can actualy show somthing this way. It might give races roles so to speak.
Above 4 races and 2 sides(tank/DPS) is ofcourse just an example but it would be awsome if it would work in the bigger picture for al classes imo.
Another good example is Undead priest. they can be master of shadow damage so to speak.
Racials would depend on clas and sound somthing along the lines of.
Tauren warrior: damage done reduced by 5% damage taken reduced by 5% and armor increased by 3%. Or armor gained from shield gained by 10%(as its so big so to speak)
You get the idea :p.
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Rubendesmet619
this is simply a bad idea, if you have a racial penalty to performing one role:tanking, and a racial buff to another: dps you end up dictating to the players what they are going to be able to do. For instance: if a Tauren warrior gets the above mentioned buffs for tanking, will an orc who wants to tank be able to find a group? Most likely not.
You end up making the LFG channel look like:
LF tauren Pally heals H UK
LF Orc Fury DPS
It just doesnt make sense to separate them that much, I liked some of the racial spells from back in the day, but they were removed for just that reason, they tended to force players into playing a certain way.
It just isnt going to happen.
My target personaly would be simply be to MAKE a diference but to make such a diference it doesnt matter as long as your not maximizing.
I f.ex. won't safe any money at al for my gear and if I could get +1strength somwhere by paying 1000g I would. The fact im stuck with this hybrid!@#$ sucks.
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jwjsmith
I reject the notion that I "hide behind a shield", that's what paladins do.
Warriors are proud fighters, we charge in and make mayhem and make monsters fight us because we're badasses.
Paladins have to use "holy magic" and stuff to make monsters attack them, they aren't naturally badasses like we are. Then once their stupid magic has the monsters attacking them, they have magic to hide behind their shields because they can't take the heat like real Warriors.
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Propanetank
Well, regardless of how much it seems you can still tank great in any race, only humans have "Every Man for Himself" and the utility of that as a tank is the only reason I haven't gone Worgen as much as I'd want to and that's sad. No ability of any race can even come close to it when it comes to tanking and I really wish there was anything that could replace its utility in some way, but there isn't (unless u want to do the unthinkable: replace a wonderful tanking trinket w/ a crappy pvp one) :(
But, if someone does come up with some idea please do let me know. Thanks.
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Maelchav
My take on the OP's point is that it'd be nice to be able to have warriors be a "pure" DPS class, because hybrids can't be as effective as pures. Almost like having DPS warriors and tank warriors as separate classes.
I can see the appeal, but I like the flexibility of our three talent trees better. The idea that I can slap on a shield and drop into defensive stance to save the day if our tank dies (as happened in several of my PuGs leveling up) is what drew me to roll a warrior. I mainly tank with my paladin, and mainly DPS with my warrior, but I wouldn't give up that flexibility for more damage.
Just my $0.02.
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