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Post by
sugarzombie
old king:
- trash with lethal abilities
- LOTS of trash
- patrols everywhere
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Interest
The first boss for Heroic ToC can be rather nasty depending on which 3 bosses you get.
I'm horde, and I personally find that the Human, Dwarf, and Draenei make the worst 3.
Other than that, I also agree that Heroic ToC is a cakewalk.
Post by
aucifer
HMm I'll vote for TOC. Don't wanna go there with a pug as healer, unless it's a guild run -.-
Occulus is just too troublesome for just 4 badges.
I quite like Old kingdom, it's easy as a healer even with some not quite geared dps. Still can pull them through and plus AN = 8 easy fast badges and a daily quest for gold :) I'll try to run those 2 everyday if I can
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Borther
Old Kingdom is easily the hardest heroic, and Occulus is 2nd. I will explain.
Occulus is hard, but there aren't really the type of gear checks that are in Old Kingdom. What makes Occulus difficult is most of the bosses are non-linear encounters. Whether you have to kite the boss in a circle and avoid the arcane blast, stay out of the lightning cone thingy, or understand how to use the drake on the last boss, you don't really have to have a well geared group, just a group that knows the fights.
On the other hand, Old Kingdom not only requires you to know the fights, but you also have to have a solid healer, a solid tank and solid dps, or you will fail. It's not unusual to wipe on trash there. Whether its the disciple guys who do the crazy high dmg flamestrikes or the eyes that silence the healers, or the spell flingers that hit for like 10k, or whatever ridiculous it is. Boss fights are technical, trash is tricky and can easily wipe you, and if more than 1-2 people are undergeared, you probably wont finish it .
Solid dps meaning 1.5k?
Old Kingdom is easy as !@#$, so is every other heroic.
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Post by
Ethix
They're all pretty easy now with the gear levels, but other day I pugged a few and it was a terrible experience.
Bad tanks just make everything so god awful. Having to heal through tanks never picking up mobs, or leaving the hunter boss on H ToC straight shooting whomever the entire makes me want to punt babies.
Also, having a tank jump off his horse to tank during the mount phase...to have the healer jump off to heal the tank. *facepalm*
Post by
Gnostik
Hard with a bunch of new people who don't know what they're doing is a lot of different from hard with experienced players who know the fights and still have trouble. I would say the latter definition is more relevant, since if you go with the former then an instance stops being hard once people learn what to do.
That said, Old Kingdom is it for me, hands down. (Not counting the new instance - see below.) Oculus never even entered my mind until I opened the thread. I don't think the fact that new players don't know what to do with the drakes makes the instance hard. Once you learn what to do it's quite easy. HoL also doesn't seem to be in the running to me. Hardest heroic just cuz of Lightning Nova? I think not.
Old Kingdom on the other hand, has tricky pulls, deadly pats, silences, hard-hitting AoE's to the group, and the insanity boss is a nightmare with geared DPS in your party.
I might have said Utgarde Pinnacle until most people learned the dragon fight with the harpoons and frost breath. (Sorry, I can't remember the names of all 10,000 bosses in this game.)
But the new TotC is probably harder than OK on heroic. It's a real nightmare to heal so your success or failure mostly falls to your healer in my experience.
Also I want to point out that OK is the only heroic with its own unique daily quest. Coincidence? I think not. I bet Blizzard meant for it to be the hardest, which is why that quest is there.
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Post by
Hayda
Why is everyone saying that
Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom
is so difficult? I found it to be the easiest... me (Elemental Shaman), druid tank, druid healer, and death knight DPS. We wiped maybe once when my mouse messed up.
But the hardest pre 3.2.0 had to be...
Utgarde Pinnacle
. Probably the only one where I punched the wall and chucked my hat across the room.
^_^
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Gnostik
Why is everyone saying that
Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom
is so difficult? I found it to be the easiest... me (Elemental Shaman), druid tank, druid healer, and death knight DPS. We wiped maybe once when my mouse messed up.
Most of us have made it clear in our posts why we find OK the hardest.
Post by
Toxiciity
occulus cause it has a built in stupidity check
Post by
nachodan
Having hit 80 less than a week after the release of WotLK, I ran all the heroics when most of the group was still wearing T6 level 70 gear.
Back then, I would have ranked them:
1) Old Kingdom. The trash in there was nasty. When you only had 11k health, the flamestrikes alone could kill you if it centered on you twice in a row.
2) AN. The first boss sucked with all the waves, last boss was a pita.
3) HoS. The event boss was rough when healers were only rocking 13k mana.
All the others were a piece of cake, but a few stood out as overly easy. Oculus and DTK were simple because gear was irrelevent on the last bosses. VH, Nexus, and UK seemed like the typical trio we would run with fresh 80 guildies to get their feet wet and put a few badges under their belt.
ToC would have been nearly impossible at that time due to gear limitations. But ToC is more of a gear check than a "difficult" instance.
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Post by
cloudp
AN is easy, but it must hate me. I've developed hatred for it. BEcause of the second boss. That damned thing bugged in all my first attempts, and spawns were infinite, tough the spider always magically filled HP. Really annoying.
I did not try ToC, but from the old ones, i found occulus pretty unforgiving for beginners, and Halls of Lightning to be a bit hard for starting Discipline Priests.
But none are very difficult.
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