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Mesoforte
ethical values to a game world
in which other real people also exist
.
Fixed that for you. It is an environment in which people interact with each other. Just like any other environment in which people interact with each other, there is a basis for ethical and unethical behaviour. It is a far from futile discussion.
It is when you have no real method of universal enforcement. There's no real overseeing body for WoW (either in the form of social stigma or actual sanctioned enforcement) that has any rules on the matter. More so, there's nothing in the real world to compare Alchemists procs too. Its a fictional construct. Now, if you were writing a story about a world where this type of action is possible, then you could create an entire ethical system that all alchemists must follow that has an overseeing body to enforce it. BUT without that any discussion of the actual ethical nature of whether or not to keep the procs is moot.
The GMs have not written anything about what to do with the procs, the players have no real method of enforcing people to follow the ethical guidelines. (Complain in trade, the cesspool of all chats. That's pretty much your only option.) WoW is not a tight knit enough community for the Alchemist to really lose business if he/she does not follow the guidelines.
I'll repeat what I said earlier, as in this situation it is the only thing that makes sense-
If not, only an obligation created by the two parties would be binding. If the first party (the buyer) does not specify what to do with the procs from Elixir/potion/transmutation mastery, then there is no obligation in the deal for the second party (the alchemist) to provide it. If however the procs from Elixir/potion/transmutation mastery are included in the original deal (whereby the first party pays for them at a given rate, the second party gives them to the first party at no charge, or the second party is the understood recipient of the procs), then the second party must provide procs to the specified recipient in accordance to the deal that was made.
And a smart alchemist/business person will keep record of the deal made so if he/she is reported to a GM, a record of the deal can be presented.
With the only means of enforcement being a GM, a screenshot of the deal is the only way to ensure that both parties follow the rules of the deal. Whatever those rules may be.
Post by
JemiS
What it comes down to, simply, is that you should never assume the results of a business transaction, but instead be clear up front.
All problems can be alleviated in this way. If the two parties cannot agree on the terms, no transaction is made, and both can find someone who likes their terms. Neither party is 'wrong' in an instance when no agreement has been made.
Were I the alchemist in the first situation, I would have refunded the mats to the buyer, and told him he could find another alchemist.
Quite honestly, it's the reason I always keep at least a few mats on any of my crafting chars.
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Post by
RedwoodElf
Just keep in mind that particular alchy will never EVER make flasks for you again.
He could have just given you the flasks after the first proc, and kept the extra ingredients, after all. It's his skill that made the extras, not your mats. You should at least have been willing to pay something for the extras.
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