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Adamsm
I know; but you'd think the actors/actresses themselves would let people know, since once they end up positive, they could more then likely lose their jobs, since no one really wants the HIV floating around a porn set.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I think there are a lot of selfish people, who don't want to be stigmatized, who don't want a loss of income, who don't want to be sued for any kind of negligence. So they might not say anything. It's also possible that she didn't get it at work, isn't there? I didn't see the article.
Post by
Adamsm
I think there are a lot of selfish people, who don't want to be stigmatized, who don't want a loss of income, who don't want to be sued for any kind of negligence. So they might not say anything. It's also possible that she didn't get it at work, isn't there? I didn't see the article.
Far as I know, MyTie didn't link an article; he just tacked it onto his comment about the NFL'er. I'm sure there are quite a few articles out there though; but if the actress has never 'cheated'(using the actual definition of the word if she's in a single partner relationship) on her other, logic would dictate she got it at work.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Or from her partner, who would probably not admit to cheating.
Post by
Adamsm
Possible too.
Edit: I don't know, I've never understood why porn stars get vilified so much; it's just another job.
Post by
557473
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Post by
Skithus
Don't think so, there are warnings all over it. The best way not to get AIDS is to not sleep with people with AIDS.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I'm not vilifying her- hence my comparison to firefighters. I'm just saying that certain professions or activities carry certain risks. Professional athletes often end up injured. Cops and soldiers often end up wounded in the line of duty. Firefighters often get burned. People who work in animal control often get bitten or scratched. The nature of a profession often has certain risks associated with it.
It is in the nature of the profession of a porn star to come into contact with other people's bodily fluids, often without protection. And the people with whom they have this contact are also porn stars, and also have had contact with other people's bodily fluids, as well as possibly being in relationships with people who may or may not have other partners.
If you are having unprotected sex in a relationship, you are taking a risk. Your partner may cheat, may have been infected by a previous partner and not told you, not have had it show up on a test yet, or not gotten tested at all. There's an element of trust between you and that person, after a time, that you are relying on in order to take that risk with them.
If you are having unprotected sex with other people, whom you know professionally but not well enough to know the ins and outs of their personal lives, or what kind of a person they are, you're taking the same risk with much less of a reassurance that you can trust them. It's the same reason you don't have unprotected sex with people you don't know very well, or pick up in a bar or at a party- there is no basis upon which you can make the determination that they're trustworthy, or sexually responsible.
She chose to have unprotected sex with probably a number of co-workers, whose job it is to have unprotected sex with other people, and so she is taking a risk based on trusting a much larger group of people who she knows much less. Just statistically speaking, she is greatly increasing her chance of exposure because of the number of partners she's choosing to take on, with the knowledge that they each have had a number of partners. It's just math.
@Boron- I agree- if the producer KNEW an actor was infected, they're liable. There might be (and maybe should be) laws about how often workers in the profession get tested, and if there were and the company was disregarding them they should be liable. But there is still a window of opportunity to get infected every time you choose to have sex, especially unprotected sex, even if everyone is getting tested regularly and trying not to spread it. And that window is larger the more people you have unprotected sex with.
EDIT: Also, condoms prevent pregnancy. I'm pretty sure they don't claim to prevent STD's.
Post by
Adamsm
Kinda on tangent here, but can you sue condom producer if you got HIV after safe sex (like it ripped or soemthing)?
Probably people have tried, for other reasons beyond HIV, but as Skithus said, there are warnings...but then again, people sue(and win) for things like the 'coffee was too hot!'((not counting the actual case where the woman's womanly parts were burned by the scalding coffee, that one, I can see)).
Edit: Wasn't saying you were vilifying her Elhonna, just it seems like everyone else enjoys doing that to any porn stars.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Edit: Wasn't saying you were vilifying her Elhonna, just it seems like everyone else enjoys doing that to any porn stars.
I don't judge- it's none of my business. They're not hurting anyone else.
Post by
Skithus
Edit: Wasn't saying you were vilifying her Elhonna, just it seems like everyone else enjoys doing that to any porn stars.
I don't judge- it's none of my business. They're not hurting anyone else.
unless they give them AIDS :p
Post by
Adamsm
Edit: Wasn't saying you were vilifying her Elhonna, just it seems like everyone else enjoys doing that to any porn stars.
I don't judge- it's none of my business. They're not hurting anyone else.
Heh, I don't either; it's just another job to me...but think about putting that on a resume: Works well with others, hardy stamina, able to do repetitive tasks for long hours...and as a special bonus, can stuff a 2 foot long cucumber into small spaces =P.
Post by
MyTie
I don't know, I've never understood why porn stars get vilified so much; it's just another job.
Are they in your auto-apologize for category, along with Muslims?
And porn isn't "just another job". No matter what you think about it, you have to admit it is very very different from most other jobs.
Post by
Adamsm
And porn isn't "just another job". No matter what you think about it, you have to admit it is very very different from most other jobs.
/shrug If you say so MyTie; doesn't seem that different to me then any other jobs involving actors and actresses.
Edit: Damn it Skithus lol.
Post by
Skithus
its fairly similar to most "entertainment" professions
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I will say that I think that having casual sex diminishes the meaning of the act. I can't imagine that someone has relegated it to a professional activity hasn't deadened the emotional connection between sex and love, which is something that I think is important. I think that in that way they're hurting themselves. I think it's also a put-off to the type of relationship partner who would be extremely devoted and exclusive, because they'd typically expect the same in their spouse, so they're probably damaging their chances at finding a really deep meaningful relationship. I also have already addressed the physical risks of that many partners.
But I don't think they're horrible people, or anything. I think they're hurting themselves, and that's kind of sad, but I don't think they're hurting anyone else.
Post by
Adamsm
Yeah but it's not really sex; after all, it's just a job to them, and if you've ever read about the workings behind the scenes on a porno, where it's treated the same as any other movie that is made; IE retakes, lots of different shots, the fact that the actors have to freeze in really uncomfortable positions etc etc; I can't see a lot of them taking it home with them. There are 'porn' moms out there, who have their husbands and 2.5 kids...they just go to a different job each day.
To me, it just doesn't seem that different to a movie/tv show actor, especially if the movie or show calls for a softcore sex scene: Same thing there heh.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
It is really sex, though Adams. It may be something that they treat as their job, that they don't value very highly on an emotional or personal level, etc. But it is sex. There's nothing about it that isn't. It's the same exact act, just with no emotional attachment whatsoever. It doesn't change what it is.
It's the very fact that they devalued the act to the point where they CAN treat it as just a regular job that makes me think that they've let go of something important.
Post by
Adamsm
It is really sex, though Adams. It may be something that they treat as their job, that they don't value very highly on an emotional or personal level, etc. But it is sex. There's nothing about it that isn't. It's the same exact act, just with no emotional attachment whatsoever. It doesn't change what it is.
It's the very fact that they devalued the act to the point where they CAN treat it as just a regular job that makes me think that they've let go of something important.
And it's a job when they are at work; I'm sure there are some who think the way you think they do, but I'm also sure there are a lot of happily married ones who show their spouses just what they can do while in bed.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I don't agree. I don't think you can consider sex a special part of a meaningful relationship half the day, and then be willing to do it with whoever you're paid to the rest of the day. If it's special and emotional, then it shouldn't be for sale. If it's not anything private, and just a job, then while it might be a fun part of the relationship, it's no more special than going and eating ice cream, playing tennis or any other fun but non-exclusive activity with your spouse.
I'm not saying that they can't love- not at all. But I am saying that sex has had to become removed from that in order for them to be able to sell it on screen, at least somewhat. Just like I think it has become removed from that for people who go out and have random, unattached sex. It's much more common an occurrence than just in the porn industry- I just still think it's sad.
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