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557473
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MyTie
I think it is good decision. While you can send him to jail, ruining guys life because of one stupid mistake will not teach him anything. But, this will hopefully put some sort of mark on his soul that will prevent him from drunk driving later on.
one stupid mistake... That's one way of saying he got drunk and hit someone with his car, who then died.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I personally think 2 years for vehicular manslaughter while under the influence is a freaking joke. A man died because this guy decided that he didn't care enough about whether or not he killed someone to not drive drunk. And he's only going to do 2 years in jail? That's ridiculous. I'm more concerned about that than the public display.
In terms of public displays of guilt, in general, I think that they're a good motivator to not repeat and I support their use.
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557473
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MyTie
Well, how easy it is to get a decent job after being jailed for several years?It's quite a bit easier to get a job if you've been in jail, than it is to get a job if you are a corpse.Guy screwed up, the other guy died, it is tragic, but there is no reason to screw up his life for the rest of it,When you cause the death of another human being, your life is already screwed up. That's just the way it should be. Death is not such a light thing. There should be consequences. While I understand that he isn't a wasted life completely and automatically, we shouldn't go all the way the other end of the spectrum and brush it off because we don't want to inconvenience him.I bet he feels sorry already, and that should be enough.Awww well, geez guys, I sure am sorry that I, ya know, killed your son/brother/husband/dad. Now if you'll let me go about my business, I sure would appreciate it, because, ya know, I'm sorry and all.Besides, there is no description of the accident, so we can only guess how much blame should be put on the victim...Guy was drunk. Guy drove. Other guy died. That's pretty clear to me.
How much blame to put on the victim?
Seriously?
Your mind and my mind... they don't work the same.
Post by
Adamsm
I personally think 2 years for vehicular manslaughter while under the influence is a freaking joke. A man died because this guy decided that he didn't care enough about whether or not he killed someone to not drive drunk. And he's only going to do 2 years in jail? That's ridiculous. I'm more concerned about that than the public display.Well that depends on who was completely at fault; entirely possible the victim had something going on, since I agree that the sentence seems really low for a manslaughter, but as he's dead, they don't want to muddy his name at this point.
In terms of public displays of guilt, in general, I think that they're a good motivator to not repeat and I support their use.Yup, like the Scared Straight stuff.
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134377
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Post by
gamerunknown
Anyone got any evidence that crime rates are lower in countries that practice "public displays of guilt"?
Post by
Lombax
Is there any information where he got hit by the car? What if the guy who got hit walked over the street where was not supposed too?
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557473
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MyTie
"I really feel strongly toward permanant exile as a regularly used punishment". Are you for real MyTie? Sending thousands of serious criminals across borders sounds like a recipe for war to me. Mind you, I'm sure that the Mexican and Canadian governments would be delighted with this idea. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like it if they adopted your policy.
Yeah, I'm serious. How about using a chunk of Alaska as our exile pad? I'd be very AGAINST providing any social services to people in exile.It takes two to kill someone.
Kurt Cobain would disagree.
Ok, I'm just going to wash my hands of you, Boronidze. You are just too... uhm... different. So, adieu.Is there any information where he got hit by the car? What if the guy who got hit walked over the street where was not supposed too?This isn't the point. This PARTICULAR case isn't the point. Who is guilty isn't the point. The point is, should judges be able to publicly humiliate those who are found guilty of heinous crimes. Off-Topic did the same thing with Zimmerman, and the rest of the US for that matter. The point there wasn't guilt or innocence, but perceived racism.
So please, due to some guy's drunkenness, someone died. Some judge decided to publicly humiliate him. Are you cool with that, or not?
Post by
Lombax
So please, due to some guy's drunkenness, someone died. Some judge decided to publicly humiliate him. Are you cool with that, or not?
Punishment through humiliation? I'm not cool with that, I feel that a judge should not be able to give it as a punishment. The guys life is probably destroyed anyway after that, he shouldn't need to go through public humiliation.
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557473
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Post by
Adamsm
You know, it would be really nice to get a transcript of what was said in the court room: It's entirely possible the driver just didn't care and that's why the Judge leveled this second punishment on top of him. There are some pretty cold people out there after all.
Post by
MyTie
I said I am cool with that, and YOU started arguing with me. I just raised couple of questions that anyone should ask whenever dealing with cases like this one.
I wasn't talking to you.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Story
Why in the world would you do this? Either you know the neighbors well enough to know they moved, or you don't know them very well and you can't presume that you'd know if they moved or not. Why would you not only call the cops on people changing locks on the house next door, but come at them with guns yourself? What is wrong with people?
Post by
Adamsm
Well it was in Georgia...
But yeah, that is a bit of an extreme response.
Post by
buzz3070
Or a third option, they knew the neighbors moved and had no idea that the house was sold or was in the process of being bought and they assumed that they where breaking in for some reason and decided to drive out the "criminals" by force if they thought nessecery. What is changing locks to someone could look like someone trying to break or force open the lock.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Ok- but if you know the neighbors moved, and you see someone doing something at the house, and you have no idea whether or not it has been sold, you then hold them at gunpoint "just in case?" I could see it if they had just called the police, to have them double check that the people were supposed to be there. But they took the step of holding them hostage at gunpoint because they weren't sure if the house has been sold? I hope I never move into the neighborhood of anyone who thinks that's reasonable.
EDIT: I hope they get charged.
Post by
Azazel
I don't think you should play cops and robbers as adults. Especially not with real guns.
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