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Post by
Adamsm
Glad this is happening.
Indeed; very glad to see something like that.
Post by
Squishalot
Too much negativity going on here. Need more
positive
news.
Post by
Rankkor
See, now
THIS
is a real reason to sue someone.
I hope the lad wins.
Post by
Nathanyal
And
this
happened in our city.
Post by
Jubilee
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/tunisian-woman-sent-to-a-psychiatric-hospital-for-posting-topless-photos-on-facebook/274298/
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1069282
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Post by
Magician22773
Erm Tush mate, rights are rights. We just have them, regardless. C/F Geneva. I'm not sure, it could definitely be a spoof article, but if a woman decides to not bother to wear a top against the cold wind, I support her right to behave stupidly.
I've never understood the taboo against bare breasts anyway. There's no taboo against legs. It wasn't a leg that gave me my first meal.
Honestly, a woman that decides to do something, that has the actual possibility of her being stoned to death, probably
deserves
to be in a mental institution.
This is suicide by activism.
This does not mean I support the barbaric laws that she is protesting against, I just do not see how that form of protest is logical.
I do not like drunk drivers. If I start running in front of cars that are leaving a bar to prove that point, I am going to get locked in rubber room.
Post by
Jubilee
Honestly, a woman that decides to do something, that has the actual possibility of her being stoned to death, probably deserves to be in a mental institution.
Wow......
I have seen you write a lot of things in this forum that have made me angry or frustrated, but that is by far the worst of the lot. I don't even know how to respond to it.
Post by
Magician22773
Honestly, a woman that decides to do something, that has the actual possibility of her being stoned to death, probably deserves to be in a mental institution.
Wow......
I have seen you write a lot of things in this forum that have made me angry or frustrated, but that is by far the worst of the lot. I don't even know how to respond to it.
Why?
In the society that this woman lives in, the actions she takes are punishable by death...by stoning no less.
As I said, this was, by any means of logic...a suicide attempt. In the US, most people that attempt suicide are usually sent to a mental hospital to be evaluated and treated.
I see nothing...nothing at all, wrong with that logic.
See, you only read (or at least focused) on the part that you quoted, because that snippet helps to fuel your hatred.
You seemed to have overlooked:
This does not mean I support the
barbaric
laws that she is protesting against,
Where I make it pretty clear that I think the laws that she lives under are barbaric.
You see...I have causes that I support as well, but I try to support them in logical ways....ways that do not have a possibility of my being killed....for starters. For example:
I am quite active in advocating for the rights of prior felons. I do not show my disagreement with a felons right to bear arms being unconstitutionally stripped from them by
pointing a gun at a cop
.
Post by
Squishalot
Honestly, a woman that decides to do something, that has the actual possibility of her being stoned to death, probably deserves to be in a mental institution.
Wow......
I have seen you write a lot of things in this forum that have made me angry or frustrated, but that is by far the worst of the lot. I don't even know how to respond to it.
I've got to agree with Magician on this one (in principle, not the mental institution bit) - I read it initially the way he's explained it. There are better ways to be an activist than doing things that put your life in jeopardy.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Squishalot##DELIM##
Post by
Jubilee
I am quite active in advocating for the rights of prior felons. I do not show my disagreement with a felons right to bear arms being unconstitutionally stripped from them by
pointing a gun at a cop
.
You don't because that issue isn't something you'd risk life and limb for. That doesn't give you any right to demean someone who is willing to risk life and limb for something that she does believe is worth it. Throwing everything away to be a beacon against oppression as been a staple of human society for as long as oppression has been around. Look at Tiananmen Square, the Prague Spring uprising, or any other protest that turned out badly. Those are heroes. They faced believed that the moral weight standing up to the oppressors and saying "no more" was worth more than their own lives. To say Amina or any other protester deserved what they got is sickening and inhumane. I guess the Christian martyrs who stood up for what they believed deserved it too? And here I thought I had some amount of respect for them despite not believing in what they did.
Post by
Magician22773
You don't because that issue isn't something you'd risk life and limb for.
I don't because doing so, would be counter-productive to my cause, and would result in my death. It would make 'outsiders', people that do not have an opinion one way or the other on felons rights, look at what I did, and think "That guy must be crazy". My guess is, it would also make those that
do
support my cause think the same thing. I do not think
anyone
would support that action as being 'heroic'.
That doesn't give you any right to demean someone who is willing to risk life and limb for something that she does believe is worth it.
Could you please point out the 'demeaning' part of my statement?
Throwing everything away to be a beacon against oppression as been a staple of human society for as long as oppression has been around.
Subjugation of women has been a staple of human society for quite some time too....that does not make it right.
Look at Tiananmen Square, the Prague Spring uprising, or any other protest that turned out badly.
I do not think a topless photo with the caption "@#$% Your Morals" is ever going to rise to the status of
this
image.
To say Amina or any other protester deserved what they got is sickening and inhumane.
If she had been stoned to death, or if she gets stoned to death...saying that she "got what she deserved" would be sickening and inhumane. This was just stating an opinion, that effectively committing suicide to make a statement is not healthy.
I guess the Christian martyrs who stood up for what they believed deserved it too? And here I thought I had some amount of respect for them despite not believing in what they did.
This is slightly off-topic (or at least quite outdated), and really seems like a personal attack. I believe that is against the rules here.
Post by
Squishalot
really seems like a personal attack.
Not really, it's a fair analogy. A feminist martyr is comparable to a Christian martyr, in most respects.
Post by
Magician22773
If there were ever a case for the death penalty, it would be
this
one.
Post by
Nathanyal
Ha.
Post by
MyTie
I guess the Christian martyrs who stood up for what they believed deserved it too?
It's a little different, but I get what you are driving at. Christian martyrs were unable to stand down from their religious values, when threatened with death. Death isn't something that you should welcome, on the account of your beliefs, so easily. God commands Christians to not deny him, even until death, so I can understand Christians going to death. But, there is nothing about feminism that requires women to DIE to show their beliefs. I certainly wouldn't DIE to
advocate
equal rights for everyone. If my death would achieve something, maybe, but self sacrificing in the nature that magician is talking about, when not expected by one's deity, is, while maybe not insane, certainly unnecessary.
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240140
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Post by
Dragalthor
Dying because you refuse to deny god isn't going to help anyone. Dying because you're fighting for other women can. Like the girl who got shot in the face, she knew very well that she was putting herself in great risk by doing what she was doing, but she helped a lot of girls by doing it.
Plus the
suffragette
that threw herself under the Kings Horse at a horse race for the cause of universal suffrage.
I admit that it appears that she wasn't trying to intentionally martyr herself for the cause but the fact that it is still talked about almost a hundred years later says an awful lot.
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