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Old Gods Revealed
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Post by
Patty
I did not see any Twilight cultists in Ulduar.
Post by
ArgentSun
The
trash
before
General Vezax
. Yogg-Saron seems to prefer his own servants (i.e. corrupted Keepers and Ulduar creations).
As for the naga issue...
Spoiler: Night of the Dragon
The other dragon did not look confident. "
There is still some other force besides that shard keeping us so weak...and something else keeping you even more so, Korialstrasz
."
"
Do not concern yourself with that last.
Sinestra
planned long for
my particular coming, knowing—as you might put it—that I must interfere.
I was assailed by storm and sea monster and magic from various dark elements, including naga whom I suspect had the
choice of serving her will or suffering terribly
. All of it, including a wound that does not completely heal, were to make me weak enough to overcome once I came here...and I willingly let that
happen
." Krasus straightened. "
But I am not so weak as any of you think...and that is why, with both of us together, we should at least be able to free ourselves of these bonds.
"
"
But what else wearies us?
" Kalec persisted as he readied himself.
Page 154 in the version I have, but that might be a different one.
Post by
Gnub
As for the naga issue...
Ah, yes, I remember that part. I'm wondering how Krasus "KNEW" that, but he could be assuming, instead of being all-knowing (It's Knaak after all).
Anyway, thanks Argent :)
Post by
dumac
Always wondered how was the old gods really imprisoned, are they just in a big chamber underground in this dimension or did the titans bind them to the place by creating a sub dimension who could not be open?
Like you see in emerald dreams you see alot of layers of reality due to cast away ideas or different ideas in the azeroth blue prints. So could the titan not have locked the old gods in a reality below the one we play in and it would explain why the old gods cannot break out freely. Or is it something else who keeps them to the places they was locked in?
Also could not hakkar the soulflayer and Ula-tek the Serpent Goddess be old gods, they fit in the locations speculated hakkar in ZG and ulatek around the area of ZA and trisfal glades? Or another theory is that they two are from uldum due to hole looks like a serpents shape.
Post by
ArgentSun
Hakkar himself is not an Old God, that's almost certain. However he does have some relationships with the ancient race, and is probably something like a "son" of an Old God. Or a chosen champion, or an avatar, or anything like that - a protege.
Post by
Adamsm
A more evolved form of a Faceless one like the Herald in Old Kingdom?(hey, could be heh.)
Post by
Ganit
Not any of the games though, if that's what you are asking.
This is more what I was after. Basically I was more wondering if the Old Gods seemed to have been a part of the plan since WC2, or even WC3, or if they had just become part of the lore since WoW's release.
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Post by
Patty
It would appear he is the avatar of one of the Loa rather than one of the Loa themselves.
If there is a Troll raid in WotLK, which is likely, it might add more light on the situation.
Post by
Adamsm
More then likey when they actually open up the Gundrak temple above ground, we'll learn more about them.
Post by
KingdomKnight
I disagree with Tirisfal Glades though your opinion on the High Elves is good. You said it yourself: They're (the Titans) trying to keep them (the Old Gods) away from the Well of Eternity. It seems that they really are keeping them as far from it as possible. Examine the 2 confirmed Old Gods. They are both in zones farthest from the Well of Eternity and as close to the farthest edges of the zones away from it as well. Assuming the thing in Master's Glaive is an Old God then that as well is also far from the Well. Having an Old God in Tirisfal Glades would go against that. But I like the idea of a pentagram or something. =)
Post by
Adamsm
Wait, how is Trisfal glades close? It has glineas, silverpine, hillsbard, alterac and arathi between it and the great sea. Pre-sundering, it also would have been kept away from the Well by a portion of Northred.
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234440
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Post by
Adamsm
The biggest thing is that during the War of the Ancients, the Old God's tried to use the portal that the Highbourne were opening for Sargeras as their own way to escape their prisons. It was referenced that their were three of them controlling and corrupting Deathwing during the War of the Ancient's books, but it doesn't say where the prison these three were breaking out of was.
So my huge question is......where were these points before the sundering?
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Post by
andreasfi
You actually got wrong with that. The Scarlet Crusade is controlled by Mograine, who is not controlled or affected by an old god, but the dreadlord Balnazzar. Well, not controlled, but the dreadlord made him kill his own father.
And the reason forsaken rise from their graves, is that either Sylvanas or Lich King is raising them. Those two are at war, wich is why undeads are being raised.
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Post by
Adamsm
Actually from what it sounded in like the books, the old gods were going to come through, then look in the portal, thumb their noses and stick out their tongues as they slam the door close shut before Sargeras could come thought.
Post by
ArgentSun
You actually got wrong with that. The Scarlet Crusade is controlled by Mograine, who is not controlled or affected by an old god, but the dreadlord Balnazzar. Well, not controlled, but the dreadlord made him kill his own father.
What
?
There are quite a few Mograines in the game, and none of them leads the Scarlet Crusade/Onslaught
now
.
Alexandros Mograine - Also known as the
Ashbringer
, he was the man who found the Crusade. Not leader now, as he is a little dead.
Darion Mograine - Alexandros' younger son. Currently leader of the Knights of the Ebon Blade. Death Knight.
Renault Mograine - Alexandros' older son. Leader of the crusaders in the Scarlet Monastery.
Now, perhaps you are thinking about
Grand Crusader Dathrohan
?
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