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Prot DPS/PVP - Protribution Guide - Updated 3.3!
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Post by
pezz
It has. Read the stickies.
Post by
hunterleigh
OK, long time lurker of this thread, first time poster. I've been PVE tanking for a long time, but this makes me wanna try my hand at PVP. I had been poking into PVP a little in Holy, but I think I might like this more.
I built a Profile
that is think might fit the bill. Am I on the right track? This is gear that I think I can get quick access to from the PVE world and could build towards on the PVP side.
One Question: What is the value of BV relative to Strength? The only way to hit 2400 BV is to take some tank pieces, some ilvl 219 tank pieces. You give up a lot of Strength, Crit, and Resil to do this. It is probably worth it, but would love to know the relative weightings.
Thanks for this thread, a real joy to read.
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=21486045
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626421
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Post by
svirve
I have a question, is it possible to gem some intellect too? i get oom very often in BG and its really
annoying
......
If i use healing PvP gear, will that increase the damage that i do with my spells like Judgement, hammer of righteous , shield of righteous ETC? and is it worth it?
Is it possible to gem intellect? Sure it is, is it smart though? About as smart as just /afking when you get attacked.
HotR and ShoR doesn't have a SP coefficient and the SP coefficient for seals is often only slightly higher than the AP coefficient. So it will decrease your damage by a ton, and it's really really really really not worth it.
Post by
pezz
There is no
offensive
paladin ability that is on a spellpower coefficent and not on an attack power coefficient, with the exception of Holy Shock, which you can't get anyway, and Retribution Aura, which I'm considering a defensive ability but you could quibble over semantics there if you wanted to.
Anything that ups your attack power (which means anything that ups your strength) is going to make all of your abilities hit harder, including the spells.
Post by
Squishalot
Judgement has a fairly hefty SP component relative to AP if you're using SoV or SoR. It's still not a worthwhile trade-off. Avenger's Shield is 1-1, so Str >> SP.
The only possible (strange) thing you could do is swap your weapon out for a caster mace of some sort, as the weapon DPS is only valid for HotR / melee / seal damage. All your ranged attacks would benefit from very high SP more than weapon DPS / agility/str. But you'd nerf your close-combat abilities pretty significantly for that trade-off. Could be a possibility when being kited - weapon swap for SP bonus. Something like
Seethe
gives you an extra 550SP, meaning Judgements will hit for an extra 200 damage.
What is the value of BV relative to Strength?
Sorry for the late reply! BV improves your 'on-demand' damage by more - it's a 1-1 relationship to damage done. Str is only 0.5-1 for ShoR, but the attack power bonus improves a range of other abilities, increasing your HotR by a bit, your Judgement by a bit, your melee by a bit, your seals by a bit, etc.
Overall, Str = more damage over the cycle (if you get enough time-on-target), BV = more burst every 6 seconds.
Post by
Azazel
So, I was thinking about trying out some Protribution PvP. Now, I am not really sure about which to take:
or
. Help please?
Post by
Squishalot
Link didn't work. Can you try again?
Post by
Azazel
Tried to link Nighttime and Black Icicle. Sorry! ^^
Post by
Dragonzero
Black Icicle
with Berserking enchant or +20 Str from BC is a good start for pvp protribution and then upgrade to
Gutbuster
.
u good to go pvp :)
Post by
Squishalot
Indeed. Haste + ArPen = ewwwww....
Post by
Azazel
That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure. Thx!
Post by
Azazel
Is there any class that counters Prot in PvP?(Not considering healers)
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424512
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Post by
svirve
Is there any class that counters Prot in PvP?(Not considering healers)
Every class if played right, just like you can counter any class if you play right.
PvE is being destroyed by PvP balancing for a reason -.-
Post by
Dragonzero
oook i just wonder and heard EofE can hurt the caster if they hit u. i just think this is the one need for prot pvp and i think remove crusade then fill EofE and put last pt in Conviction.
im going to try testing that out and to seem is it good enough or not
Post by
Squishalot
It can, but it's pretty pointless - it's negligible damage compared to your direct attacks, and if you're being kited effectively, then it won't save you anyway.
Post by
Dragonzero
Is there any class that counters Prot in PvP?(Not considering healers)
Shadow Priest, and afflictions
i have np with facing Shadow priest and i did pwned them in duel. Simple gotta avoid to have them use Vamp because that priest will get heal by DoT and u don't want it.
So keep eye on their casting bar then CC it to stop use Vamp during the fight and if miss CC then use cleanse the Vamp.
for Lock...i dunno anyway i did change glyph and use Turn Evil to become instant cast for their felstalker and voidwalker.
felstalker can silence u and remove ur buff
voidwalker can bubble the lock
so i still trying find weakness to lock..
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424512
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Post by
Dragonzero
Is there any class that counters Prot in PvP?(Not considering healers)
Shadow Priest, and afflictions
i have np with facing Shadow priest and i did pwned them in duel. Simple gotta avoid to have them use Vamp because that priest will get heal by DoT and u don't want it.
So keep eye on their casting bar then CC it to stop use Vamp during the fight and if miss CC then use cleanse the Vamp.
for Lock...i dunno anyway i did change glyph and use Turn Evil to become instant cast for their felstalker and voidwalker.
felstalker can silence u and remove ur buff
voidwalker can bubble the lock
so i still trying find weakness to lock..
Have fun avoiding. Vamp in Psychic Screamn and horror
lol still it np and u can cleanse after that :P
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