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MyTie
Oh, I see now. You don't understand what Christianity is.
"Christianity" from your understanding, is extremely flawed and problematic. If, it is, as you say, whatever the people believe it is, then of course people are going to believe things that don't make sense or are violent, or any number of inappropriate things.
However, let us look at the actual
definition of "Christianity
", not just the ones you made up.
A monotheistic religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and various scholars who wrote the Christian bible. And then... your flawed understanding that you conjecture to make yourself feel justified in your vendetta against the people that do bad things in the name of Christianity:The Bible is part of the Christian religion, not the religion itself, it ultimately boils down to the people practicing it.
As long as you try blaming the religion for the flaws of the people who incorrectly practice it you will perpetuate your closed minded position. I would encourage you to lay blame where it belongs: on the idiots who do violent things, and then falsely give credit to Christianity, instead of Christianity itself, that teaches peace. The same goes for islam, and nearly any other religion. The only religion I can find that actually preaches violence is Scientology.
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MyTie
See the phrase "based off"? This is where the army of flaws come in. Christian sects are not based of what YOU deem right, it is from what THEY BELIEVE the Bible deems right. Again, BASED OFF.Organized religion is based off of what they believe. Christianity, TRUE Christianity is based off of the bibleI'm not closed minded. I'm not judging based off extremists, I'm judging based off everyday Christians. I've allowed myself to try to understand the good in the Christian community as a whole, and it just ain't working for me and for very good reasons.This is so non specific. I don't even know what the 'Christian' community is anymore. Doesn't seem like many of them follow Christ's teachings. Overall it sounds like you have organized religion and Christianity confused.MyTie, with my past two posts you've only grabbed a piece of my writing and you've commented on them.I don't have the time to cross examine every word you wrote. It was too lengthy. You're a REALLY, REALLY horrible debater to put it bluntly.ThanksPicking and choosing what you comment on eventually makes it look like you're avoiding replying to the comments, this is a sign you know you're losing at the debate or you're too stupid to give any bit of feedback on it (maybe it's both.) You also seem to have the failure in reading comprehension. Fix these before you debate again for the sake of everyone trying to get an intelligent debate out of you if there are still any left.Let me summarize my point for you again. I believe that you are are correct, except where you use the word 'Christian'. A person who truely believed and followed the teaching of Christ instead of their own inputs is a Christian. You are trying to lump organized religion together with those people. I feel that this is an inaccurate generalization. Besides that, I don't have a problem with your points. I'm not trying to debate every thing you say, because I don't feel we are on opposite sides of the debate. However, I see one single flaw in what you are saying, and I'm pointing that out. I think you are overreacting about my debate style.
Still, if it doesn't work for you, I doubt I'm going to change it much on your advice.
Post by
ASHelmy
@ Laihendi: Well, science was used to invent nuclear bombs, does that mean that science is bad? Or that we should stop sceince? Absolutely not.
@ TheMediator: Why do you assume that religion stops people thinking? I believe in God, and I try to think as much as I can.
@ HokiePokie: Actually, God tells us not to kill because it is wrong. Do you honestly think that if it wasn't for God, I would consider murder? If so, why aren't you doing the same? If I one day abandoned God and religion (Won't happen, I hope), I would still abide by the laws and rules of Islam, simply because they are
all
good/just.
Post by
Laihendi
In that post, Laihendi didn't say anything about religion needing to be stopped. He was pointing out the absurdity of saying that religion doesn't cause wars or violence.
And as far as Laihendi knows, no wars have been started in the name of science.
Post by
MyTie
In that post, Laihendi didn't say anything about religion needing to be stopped. He was pointing out the absurdity of saying that religion doesn't cause wars or violence.
And as far as Laihendi knows, no wars have been started in the name of science.
If I were to blow up a hotel full of children and leave a note saying it was 'For Science'... would that make science a bad thing?
Post by
Fizzles
It wouldn't: It would make the person bad, not Science.
Post by
Laihendi
In that post, Laihendi didn't say anything about religion needing to be stopped. He was pointing out the absurdity of saying that religion doesn't cause wars or violence.
And as far as Laihendi knows, no wars have been started in the name of science.
If I were to blow up a hotel full of children and leave a note saying it was 'For Science'... would that make science a bad thing?
Once again, all Laihendi did in that post was point out the absurdity of saying that religion doesn't motivate wars or violence.
Post by
MyTie
If I were to blow up a hotel full of children and leave a note saying it was 'For Science'... would that make science a bad thing?
Once again, all Laihendi did in that post was point out the absurdity of saying that religion doesn't motivate wars or violence.
If I am motivated to slaughter the whole world because of the song 'the sugar plum fairy'... I'm insane. There is nothing wrong with the sugar plum fairy. The song is NOT a violent motivator. The idiot that wants to kill people is motivated by selfish or insane intentions.
Once again, all MyTie is pointing out is the absurdity of saying that religion motivates wars and violence.
Post by
Laihendi
So when the pope orders that all of Europe goes to war with Islam, and they do, it's not because the religion is insane, it's because everyone who practices it is insane... is that what you're saying?
Post by
MyTie
So when the pope orders that all of Europe goes to war with Islam, and they do, it's not because the religion is insane, it's because everyone who practices it is insane... is that what you're saying?
The pope is then insane, yes. Christ said to love your neighbor. That is the religion. The pope said to kill thier neighbor. Is it so very hard for you to see this difference?
This would be like saying "So when Ted Bundy went out and killed people, your saying HE was insane, and not Americans are insane? Is that what you are saying?" Well, yes. Americans weren't insane, he was.
I don't care what title he carries, he doesn't speak for religion, which is just a set of ideals. Unless THOSE IDEALS say to go kill people, not the professed 'leaders' of that religion, then it is not a violent religion, just violent practitioners.
Post by
Laihendi
All of Christian Europe went along with what he said, in the name of god. Does that mean all of Christian Europe was insane?
Post by
MyTie
All of Christian Europe went along with what he said, in the name of god. Does that mean all of Christian Europe was insane?
Christian Europe.... I wonder... were they following the teachings of Christ?
Post by
Laihendi
They were the only christians in the world...
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Post by
MyTie
I can see I will never be able to convey this point to you. It is far to complicated. I'll attempt one more time:
1) In order to be a Christian you must follow the teachings of Christ
2) They were not following the teachings of Christ
3) They were not Christians.
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Laihendi
The pope isn't Christian?
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