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Why 3/3 Emp Renew?
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Post by
OscarDivine
I didnt really notice any difference without the empowered renew other than
seeing
a smaller number for the first tick, didnt seem like i was missing any healing or anything, it was still in my top spells and surge of light and holy con. still proced tons, but when healing through aoe, i noticed a
big
difference in the amount i was healing for with all my other healy spells, nothing better than taking people from 50% to full in one prayer of healing, and not having to use two prayers of healing on each group saved a ton of mana ^__^ I wil definitly be recommending specng into only 1/3 empowered renew points to any of my holy priesty friends looking to change their spec up a bit
and i would recommend that people who read this post at least give 1/3 empowered healing a try, i think youll be rather pleased with the results
I felt the exact same way when I changed specs and healed Ulduar! Seeing another get good results form this concept makes me very happy.
Post by
OscarDivine
I'd like to continue to encourage players to try this new "spec flex". I would really love more feedback!
Post by
karlusdavius
Had to switch to holy at really short notice last night on mim hard mode
first can i say, *!@# me that encounter is crazy!
Second =
Spec Used
I took Inner Focus for my Divine Hymn, which turned out to be a massive, massive boon when stupid amounts of AoE were flying round. B&S was taken by another priest, so i tried to maximize the throughput.
Very nice spec and didn't feel any sort of downfall while having 1/1 Emp Renew. managed 3rd on healing meters in Disc gear
Post by
OscarDivine
Had to switch to holy at really short notice last night on mim hard mode
first can i say, *!@# me that encounter is crazy!
Second =
Spec Used
I took Inner Focus for my Divine Hymn, which turned out to be a massive, massive boon when stupid amounts of AoE were flying round. B&S was taken by another priest, so i tried to maximize the throughput.
Very nice spec and didn't feel any sort of downfall while having 1/1 Emp Renew. managed 3rd on healing meters in Disc gear
Woohoo! I truly hope that this becomes a more widely accepted Holy Spec adaptation! :-)
Post by
karlusdavius
popped it in the holy guide. dont you find it annoying that they all got merged?
Post by
razzem
Hey Oscar-
This is from WAY back when I was playing around with that hybrid build, so I'm sure the numbers aren't accurate due to having different talents and how long ago this was that I'm remembering it from, but something that is worth looking into again:
2/3 Emp Renew... for me, self buffed, was hitting for ~750 health initial, ticking for 1100.
3/3 Emp Renew... for me, self buffed, was hitting for 1.5k health initial, ticking for 1500.
To me, that was a big enough difference to care about. It ended up being the difference of roughly 9k instead of 7.5k. Considering that Renew ticks and Emp Renew have such good hpm/hps for helping keep tanks up, I think it's worth maxing the talents out.
On the other hand, like I said before, it's been a long time since I respecced. Best thing to verify my numbers by respeccing, and record for yourself how much the initial heal is, and how much each tick is doing. Record this for 0/3 Emp Renew (with Imp Renew maxed), 1/3, 2/3, and 3/3 Emp Renew, then fill out the rest of the Holy tree.
I played around with the glyph as well. I found that it made using Renew better for a raid heal, but it became more of a hassle to keep on a tank. I like it more for keeping on a tank, personally, but I could see playstyle differences coming into play for this glyph. Like you, though, I see other glyphs as more competitive.
Post by
OscarDivine
Well, again, it's only an idea to increase flexibility in the current specs that we are using.
For me, I use it for increasing the output/efficiency of my multi-target spells like CoH, PoH and Prayer of Mending.
edit: Renew has lower output for me than these spells.
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Post by
OscarDivine
why no inner focus?
i combine inner focus with test of faith on a greater heal. never fails to impress.
i only take 1/3 imp. renew i find i prefer mana cost reductions further down the tree.
Inner focus is a preferential talent. For 2-3 uses per fight, I would use it on a Divine Hymn or a Prayer of Healing over a GHeal Any day.
I should start using a macro for Divine Hymn with Inner focus, for my disco spec...
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Post by
OscarDivine
Given the nature of this thread, I'm going to assume you...
Dropped 2 points out of Empowered renew and then took 2 points into BnS?
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Post by
OscarDivine
No, since I knew it was going to be a one time thing (the regulars should be back for this week's raid) I just made a spec specifically for vezax raid healing.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#bVcbuhhVRZcEzofMaizG0h
It's odd, but it makes sense if you consider it's specifically for vezax.
Basically I just stood in the black crap and pre-shielded as much as I could since the black pool cuts mana cost by 70% except for the guys that I knew needed the speed boost (I couldn't risk them having weakened soul) and when one of them got mark of the faceless, I shielded them and told them on vent to move.
However if I were to keep my regular spec and pickup BnS I'd drop the two points from imp shields as it seems the most logical.
This post has no place in our current thread. It would have made more sense to post here to make mention that you switched two points out of Empowered Renew to gain BnS, but... You're just talking about BnS...
We're happy you're so diesel though. Really.
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Post by
razzem
You know for someone that says the way I post is generally offensive, you really should look over your last few responses to me.
Seriously... what happened to the Oscar that I used to know and love? You were the one that just asked where he got the points from... maybe he got a little more detailed than you would like, but seriously...
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OscarDivine
You know for someone that says the way I post is generally offensive, you really should look over your last few responses to me.
Seriously... what happened to the Oscar that I used to know and love? You were the one that just asked where he got the points from... maybe he got a little more detailed than you would like, but seriously...
Ha sorry guys I was just trying to keep the thread pure. Ty for the input guys.
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Post by
OscarDivine
The problem with taking points out of Improved Renew is that it then additionally subtracts from the initial heal that your empowered healing will do. I suppose that if you're REALLY not a big user of the Renew spell, you could consider it.
The idea of taking 1 point instead of 3 in Emp Healing to use... Well wherever you want! It's good flex.
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